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Never cave to the libtards, you cuck. Nows not the time to roll back pressure over shillarys illegal activities.
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Alex Jones Acquiesces to Alefantis, Broadcasts Apology to Comet Ping Pong for Covering Pizzagate

The head conspiracy theorist has surrendered to a cadre of heavy hitting D.C. lawyers, employed by the humble pizza parlor keeper, James Alefantis.

Earlier this week, Alefantis' former gay lover, David Brock from Media Matters and Shareblue, suffered a heart attack. Today, Alex Jones had a change of heart, especially in light of recent events that has placed Infowars.com in Facebook's fake news genre and Adroll refusing to do business with him -- likely due to his political leanings and fake news label, placed on him by the leftist media.

Here's Jones apologizing several times to James Alefantis and Comet Ping Pong and anyone else he might've offended.



This video is, all of a sudden, trending on Youtube -- #28 and rising.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-2 ... g-pizzagat

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This cuck is at it again and wil probebly apologize like the litle snowflake he is. The governmental targeting of Trump and Trump allies is well funded and well feueled.



ALEX JONES’S THREAT TO CONGRESSMAN MAY BE A FELONY

Law enforcement officials are not saying whether they will charge broadcaster Alex Jones, the right-wing conspiracy theorist ally of President Donald Trump, for publicly threatening to “beat” Representative Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and telling Schiff to “fill your hand”—a reference to taking up a pistol.

But, says an attorney with expertise in federal law, Jones’s threats appear to break a federal law, U.S. Code Title 18, Section 115, which makes it illegal to threaten to assault a U.S. official and provides a penalty of up to six years in prison.

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“I do think that the combination of Jones’s comments would amount to a threat,” says Amanda Berman, director of legal affairs with Lawfare Project, a consortium of experts on national security law. “It seems to be a clear provocation. Ultimately, the question would have to be put to a judge or jury, but I think there is a legal basis for a conviction based on Jones’s threat, which was made ‘with intent to impede, intimidate or interfere’ with Congressman Schiff’s exercise of his duties as the ranking member of the committee investigating the connection between the Trump campaign/administration and the Russians.”

Schiff likely became a Jones target because he is the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, which is investigating possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia. Schiff has said there is “more than circumstantial” evidence of collusion between Trump associates and Russia.

Jones is based in Austin, Texas, and Texas state law also forbids threats against public officials.

A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Western District of Texas did not return calls and emailed requests for comment.

Uploaded March 30 under the headline Watch Live Now! Plan to Assassinate Trump Leaked, the video involved an interview with Republican operative Roger Stone, a sometime Trump adviser. Jones launched into his rant against Schiff while talking with Stone, but the canny operative—who has been accused of having Russia ties himself—did not take the bait, remarking: “I’m not going to go there.”

It’s not clear whether the video was broadcast on the air before being posted to YouTube: If so, that would bring it under the purview of the Federal Communications Commission. Jones’s Infowars program is carried by Genesis Communications Network, which produces 75 shows aired on 830 radio stations.

In addition to threatening to “beat” Schiff, the rant was also explicitly anti-gay. Neither Schiff’s office nor the FCC has returned calls for comment. The CEO and founder of Genesis Communications, Ted Anderson, also has not responded to messages.

The video was brought to Newsweek’s attention by Media Matters, a progressive PAC that monitors Jones’s shows.

Jones’s broadcast style serves up class resentment and paranoia, and he sometimes literally growls with rage about “globalists.” The Southern Poverty Law Center has called him “the most prolific conspiracy theorist in America.” Among the outlandish ideas he frequently discusses are that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were an inside job and that the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre was a faked false-flag operation aimed at taking away Americans’ gun rights. Until he publicly recanted recently, he was also a purveyor of “Pizzagate,” the claim that Hillary Clinton and other Democrats engaged in child abuse in the basement of a popular Washington, D.C., pizza parlor. Acting on that theory, a North Carolina man shot up the restaurant with an assault rifle in December after driving to the nation’s capital to “self-investigate.”

The rise of Trump has not soothed Jones’s excitable tendencies. On the contrary: He has dialed it up a few notches, going so far as urging Trump to use violence against his opponents.

In February, the online advertiser AdRoll suspended its relationship with Infowars. Kellogg has also stopped its advertising, citing hate speech. Jones is still supported by Google via its YouTube Partners Program, which helps users connect with advertisers, and other advertisers include PlayStation and Trivago.

The full transcript of Jones’s rant against Schiff is below, and the video clip is here.

Warning: persistent profanity.

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“I’m not against gay people. OK. I love them, they’re great folks. But Schiff looks like the archetypal cocksucker with those little deer-in-the-headlight eyes and all his stuff. And there’s something about this fairy, hopping around, bossing everybody around, trying to intimidate people like me and you, I want to tell Congressman Schiff and all the rest of them, ‘Hey, listen, asshole, quit saying Roger and I’—and I’ve never used cussing in 22 years, but the gloves are off—‘listen, you son of a bitch, what the fuck’s your problem? You want to sit here and say that I’m a goddamn, fucking Russian. You get in my face with that, I’ll beat your goddamn ass, you son of a bitch. You piece of shit. You fucking goddamn fucker. Listen, fuckhead, you have fucking crossed a line. Get that through your goddamn fucking head. Stop pushing your shit. You’re the people that have fucked this country over and gangraped the shit out of it and lost an election. So stop shooting your mouth off claiming I’m the enemy. You got that you goddamn son of a bitch? Fill your hand.’ I’m sorry, but I’m done. You start calling me a foreign agent, those are fucking fighting words. Excuse me.”

After reviewing the transcript, attorney Berman says it’s clear Jones indicated an intent to harm, under the law. “Regardless of the qualifying language ‘get in my face with that,’ Jones challenges the congressman to arm himself for a physical altercation—‘fill your hand’—and suggests that if the two ever ‘faced off,’ which could mean that they were simply in the same room together, the congressman would be assaulted. Jones says that ‘the gloves are off’ and that he [Jones] was the victim of the congressman's ‘fighting words.’”

Jones has not responded to a request for comment.

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IMO, a full red country or a full blue country will never work.

The 3 things I would like to see worked on are:

Healthcare prices

Education

Getting more people into buying homes and not punishing them for not having 20% down payment by having them purchase PMI for the bank.


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Those "related" stories don't seem very related.

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Getting more people into buying homes and not punishing them for not having 20% down payment by having them purchase PMI for the bank.

I don't want people buying homes that can't afford them. Have you been asleep the last 10 years?

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Getting more people into buying homes and not punishing them for not having 20% down payment by having them purchase PMI for the bank.

I don't want people buying homes that can't afford them. Have you been asleep the last 10 years?


I think, think more like areas that were foreclosed on in a mass amount. Detroit for example.


Just because you don't have 20% downpayment, does not mean you can not afford a house.


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Cashman wrote:
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Getting more people into buying homes and not punishing them for not having 20% down payment by having them purchase PMI for the bank.

I don't want people buying homes that can't afford them. Have you been asleep the last 10 years?


I think, think more like areas that were foreclosed on in a mass amount. Detroit for example.


Just because you don't have 20% downpayment, does not mean you can not afford a house.

You can buy a house in Detroit for like a $1.

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PMI is mandatory for mortgages with below 20% down payments for a reason.

People forget that once you reach 21% equity, you can have an appraisal done and PMI disappears.

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Just because you don't have 20% downpayment, does not mean you can not afford a house.
If PMI is too much for you to pay then you can not afford a house though.

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Just because you don't have 20% downpayment, does not mean you can not afford a house.
If PMI is too much for you to pay then you can not afford a house though.



My PMI is like $150. That is a waste. I can afford it, but it could go somewhere else.


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Douchebag wrote:
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Getting more people into buying homes and not punishing them for not having 20% down payment by having them purchase PMI for the bank.

I don't want people buying homes that can't afford them. Have you been asleep the last 10 years?


I think, think more like areas that were foreclosed on in a mass amount. Detroit for example.


Just because you don't have 20% downpayment, does not mean you can not afford a house.

You can buy a house in Detroit for like a $1.



Then you have to rehab it.


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Just because you don't have 20% downpayment, does not mean you can not afford a house.
If PMI is too much for you to pay then you can not afford a house though.



My PMI is like $150. That is a waste. I can afford it, but it could go somewhere else.
I paid PMI before too. It was just the cost of doing business. Those loans default at much higher levels. Of course I would rather not pay it but I also understood that getting a house with less than 20% down was a different circumstance.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Just because you don't have 20% downpayment, does not mean you can not afford a house.
If PMI is too much for you to pay then you can not afford a house though.



My PMI is like $150. That is a waste. I can afford it, but it could go somewhere else.
I paid PMI before too. It was just the cost of doing business. Those loans default at much higher levels. Of course I would rather not pay it but I also understood that getting a house with less than 20% down was a different circumstance.




I 100% get it. But I am not talking about upper middle class living above their means. I am wanting more working class people who want to take pride in owning a home and stop wasting money on rent. If they are buying a $100,000 house or lower, that is $20,000 to comeup with. That is punishing the "poor" for being poor. Which is not fair.


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Cashman wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Just because you don't have 20% downpayment, does not mean you can not afford a house.
If PMI is too much for you to pay then you can not afford a house though.



My PMI is like $150. That is a waste. I can afford it, but it could go somewhere else.
I paid PMI before too. It was just the cost of doing business. Those loans default at much higher levels. Of course I would rather not pay it but I also understood that getting a house with less than 20% down was a different circumstance.




I 100% get it. But I am not talking about upper middle class living above their means. I am wanting more working class people who want to take pride in owning a home and stop wasting money on rent. If they are buying a $100,000 house or lower, that is $20,000 to comeup with. That is punishing the "poor" for being poor. Which is not fair.

Just pay down your mortgage or wait for the house to appreciate. Your PMI drops off when those two factors push you to 21% equity.

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Cashman wrote:
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Just because you don't have 20% downpayment, does not mean you can not afford a house.
If PMI is too much for you to pay then you can not afford a house though.



My PMI is like $150. That is a waste. I can afford it, but it could go somewhere else.
I paid PMI before too. It was just the cost of doing business. Those loans default at much higher levels. Of course I would rather not pay it but I also understood that getting a house with less than 20% down was a different circumstance.




I 100% get it. But I am not talking about upper middle class living above their means. I am wanting more working class people who want to take pride in owning a home and stop wasting money on rent. If they are buying a $100,000 house or lower, that is $20,000 to comeup with. That is punishing the "poor" for being poor. Which is not fair.

Just pay down your mortgage or wait for the house to appreciate. Your PMI drops off when those two factors push you to 21% equity.


For me, I agree. The day that happens will be a good day.


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I 100% get it. But I am not talking about upper middle class living above their means. I am wanting more working class people who want to take pride in owning a home and stop wasting money on rent. If they are buying a $100,000 house or lower, that is $20,000 to comeup with. That is punishing the "poor" for being poor. Which is not fair.
Lots of places having home purchasing assistance though for people like that.

However, I don't think everyone should own a home especially if they can't get 20% and can't afford the pmi on it. There are a lot of expenses that come from home ownership so someone who is barely scraping by would struggle with those too.

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I 100% get it. But I am not talking about upper middle class living above their means. I am wanting more working class people who want to take pride in owning a home and stop wasting money on rent. If they are buying a $100,000 house or lower, that is $20,000 to comeup with. That is punishing the "poor" for being poor. Which is not fair.
Lots of places having home purchasing assistance though for people like that.

However, I don't think everyone should own a home especially if they can't get 20% and can't afford the pmi on it. There are a lot of expenses that come from home ownership so someone who is barely scraping by would struggle with those too.


That's basically staying that you support generational poverty, which is not surprising.

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That's basically staying that you support generational poverty, which is not surprising.
No it isn't.

There are two responses, the first is that home ownership shouldn't be viewed as a revenue generating action. Of course it could be and at one point it was but it shouldn't be viewed as such especially with the types of homes we are talking about here. Many expenses are fixed and you just aren't going to generate a very good profit on a $100k home when you need a new roof and updates to the interior, and AC/Heating maintenance and replacement. When you have almost no money into the house you are also paying a pretty high amount in interest. Rentinh may very well be the best option.

The second response is that generational poverty has very little to do with home ownership. It has more to do with stagnant wages, depressed areas losing jobs, school systems that are struggling, and crime and increased incarceration rates. Giving someone who can't afford a house a loan with 0% down and no PMI isn't going to change that. In fact, it may very well make it worse because that person is being setup as a pretty easy foreclosure unless things get better for them.

Now, I'm not saying home ownership isn't a good thing. We should encourage it, and even low income families are given various incentives in many areas to help with the purchase of a home, but this discussion is about PMI and how it punishes poor people.

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Those loans default at much higher levels.


so let's add an additional fee to them, that should help !


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Those loans default at much higher levels.


so let's add an additional fee to them, that should help !


I don't think you fully understand this. People are less likely to just walk away from a home if they have 20% of their own cash already in it. People putting 1-3% on a home just leave when things take a shit in their lives. You get that right?

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Bagels wrote:
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Those loans default at much higher levels.


so let's add an additional fee to them, that should help !


I think you fully understand this. People are less likely to just walk away from a home if they have 20% of their own cash already in it. People putting 1-3% on a home just leave when things take a shit in their lives. You get that right?


wow thanks for breaking it down for me, very gracious of you


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Those loans default at much higher levels.


so let's add an additional fee to them, that should help !
That was obviously sarcastic but it actually is why it is the right decision.

First of all, it makes it more of a tough decision. It also is used to protect the pool of mortgage holders rather than spreading out the costs over every person.

You don't have to buy a house. It is a decision and ignorance shouldn't be an excuse especially when any mortgage lender will be very clear as to what PMI is and why they have it and how they can avoid it.

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Those loans default at much higher levels.


so let's add an additional fee to them, that should help !
That was obviously sarcastic but it actually is why it is the right decision.

First of all, it makes it more of a tough decision. It also is used to protect the pool of mortgage holders rather than spreading out the costs over every person.

You don't have to buy a house. It is a decision and ignorance shouldn't be an excuse especially when any mortgage lender will be very clear as to what PMI is and why they have it and how they can avoid it.


I'm aware, i paid it myself for i think 2 years or so. We put 5% down if i recall. After 2 years there was at least a decent amount of principal paid down so i had an appraisal done and between the two was able to get rid of it.


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I'm aware, i paid it myself for i think 2 years or so. We put 5% down if i recall. After 2 years there was at least a decent amount of principal paid down so i had an appraisal done and between the two was able to get rid of it.
We did it similarly though our big issue was that we were required to have a certain amount of money in the bank after we paid the down payment so getting to 20% was difficult. We saved enough over the first two years to then pay down the rest to get rid of it.

Rent in NY was really high though so even with PMI we were paying roughly the same so it wasn't really much of a choice.

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I have been told some people also borrow against their own 401k to put 20% down. Then you pay interest to yourself rather than the higher PMI to the man.

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I have been told some people also borrow against their own 401k to put 20% down. Then you pay interest to yourself rather than the higher PMI to the man.

That's what I did. It was a 10 year loan, paying myself back at roughly the same rate as the mortgage was at the time. The max I could borrow was $50k, and I took $47k to cover 20% down and closing costs.

I had more than enough money to pay the monthly payments, in fact I got a 15-year mortgage instead of a 30. I just didn't have $47k laying around in an account other than my 401k. I was happy to have that loan in essence be the conservative part of my 401k portfolio for that decade.

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I'm aware, i paid it myself for i think 2 years or so. We put 5% down if i recall. After 2 years there was at least a decent amount of principal paid down so i had an appraisal done and between the two was able to get rid of it.
We did it similarly though our big issue was that we were required to have a certain amount of money in the bank after we paid the down payment so getting to 20% was difficult. We saved enough over the first two years to then pay down the rest to get rid of it.

Rent in NY was really high though so even with PMI we were paying roughly the same so it wasn't really much of a choice.


Yea, honestly I think one of the best decisions we made (getting married certainly wasn't one) was not getting the max we were approved for. The house we ended up getting was probably 50K less than what we could have purchased. But with the PMI and like you mention, various repair (this wasn't a fixer upper but of course any place has things you need to do immediately) I couldn't have imagined paying too much more on the mortgage. I think that's another issue aside from putting no money down, just because you're approved for a 300K mortgage doesn't mean you necessarily should buy the most expensive house you can afford


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I have been told some people also borrow against their own 401k to put 20% down. Then you pay interest to yourself rather than the higher PMI to the man.

That's such an awful idea. The tax penalties for that are higher than the interest today (plus whatever you take out isn't going to be earning anything)

Just today if you take out for 401k to pay down a mortgage, you are sacrificing 8% growth to pay down 3-4% interest. Maybe in the 70s when you had inflation going crazy and high interest rates that *might* have made sense.

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