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FYI. Rumors are all around that Indiana will have 7 players next game, and everyone who is good except Gordon skipped practice today.

May affect the outcome of tomorrow's IU/NU game just in case you were going to be making a play on that.

Edit:Sampson says he wants them to play. I would stay away.


Rick, by the time an opening number is posted on that game, it will be well known in the market as to what is happening. If that happens, then it's likely the game will be taken off the board with no bets accepted.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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FYI. Rumors are all around that Indiana will have 7 players next game, and everyone who is good except Gordon skipped practice today.

May affect the outcome of tomorrow's IU/NU game just in case you were going to be making a play on that.

Edit:Sampson says he wants them to play. I would stay away.


Rick, by the time an opening number is posted on that game, it will be well known in the market as to what is happening. If that happens, then it's likely the game will be taken off the board with no bets accepted.


When do college basketball numbers normally come out?

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For a full Saturday card like tomorrow, I expect the books will start posting numbers about 8 tonight. I suspect no number will be offered on the IU game until tomorrow, pending determination of what is happening. Totals are a different story. Sometimes they go up during the wee hours, but lately, the saturday totals aren't being posted until about 9 am saturday.


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bookmaker.com just posted some of the lines for tomorrow's action, no totals or money lines

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My Bracketbuster card for the afternoon. Straight bets are 4x and moneylines are 1x. George Mason (+1) is a 5x straight bet with no moneyline (Straight is -110, ML would have been -105).

VA Commonwealth - spread +2 (-110)
VA Commonwealth - moneyline (+115)
George Mason - spread +1 (-110)
Wichita State - spread +3 (-110)
Wichita State - moneyline (+135)
Hofstra - spread +3½ (-110)
Hofstra - moneyline (+145)
Creighton - spread +1½ (-110)
Creighton - moneyline (+110)
Northeastern - spread +1½ (-110)
Northeastern - moneyline (+105)
High Point - spread +2 (-110)
High Point - moneyline (+115)

I'll have the Bracketbuster totals tomorrow and will post tomorrow night's Bracketbuster dogs tomorrow also.

In the big game tomorrow night, I'm taking the Vols straight up for 10x and on the moneyline for 2x.
Tennessee - spread +6 (-110)
Tennessee - moneyline (+230)

I might have a few totals tomorrow that I cap normally, but as it is, I'll have quite a bit in play.


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Iowa is absolutely horrendous on the road. Even though 15 is a lot of wood, take the Spartans.


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Yeah Vince, I like that too. This is payback week for the Spartans. That first Iowa game was the Spartans' biggest nightmare game maybe in Izzo's entire career. MSU laid 15 to Penn State Wed. night and paid back the Nittany Lions with a 30 point beating. I suspect the same kind of beatdown is in store for Iowa tomorrow.


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Love the Vols tomorrow +6 also, along with Michigan getting 1.5 against Illinois.


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Here is the first set of brackbuster "system" totals for today. A few more tonight.

Loyola Chicago/William & Mary - total Over 118½
Northeastern/Holy Cross - total Over 114½
Fairfield/Drexel - total Over 123
Bowling Green/Detroit - total Over 122
Samford/Louisiana Tech - total Over 113
Evansville/Eastern Illinois - total Over 121½


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Coast2Coast wrote:
In the big game tomorrow night, I'm taking the Vols straight up for 10x and on the moneyline for 2x.
Tennessee - spread +6 (-110)
Tennessee - moneyline (+230)

I might have a few totals tomorrow that I cap normally, but as it is, I'll have quite a bit in play.


C2C - What's your reasoning for Tennessee tonight, also do you have any thoughts on the total in that game ?

Look forward to hearing your analysis!


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Memphis is the better defense and has the better inside game, but the + for the Vols overcomes those advantages. I think this is a game that is close and goes to the wire. 1) the Vols have better offensive efficiency and achieved it against a significantly better (defensively and overall) group of opponents. The Vols are 117.9 OE (1.179 points/possession) compared to Memphis' 115.3. 2) The edge in defense for Memphis isn't as much as you might think. Memphis all the best Defensive Efficiency in the nation, but there are some bad offenses in CUSA they've faced. Tenn. is a very respectable 27th in the nation in DE and has faced much better offenses 3) Vols blitzed Memphis last year by 20. Is this one of those matchups where one team has the other's number? I don't know, but I like the short history of this matchup and the confidence the Vols surely have about this matchup. My notes from last year's game tell me that Memphis may have the better athletes (duh) but Tenn found the open man better. While Rose is a significant addition to Memphis, Tenn is playing above where it was last year also. 4) Free throw shooting. Memphis is a horrible FT shooting team and they will likely need to make them if they are in a position to cover. 5) The Vols' versatility and depth is superior. Memphis' top 5 might be better overall than the Vols' top 5, but the top 7 edge is to the Vols. 6) Close game experience. The Vols have played several close games in which they've had to make big plays down the stretch. Memphis hasn't.

Total: Lean over, but don't see any value in playing it at the current number of 156.5. Last year the shooting was bad and it only hit 134 against a 161 number. The Ds are better this year, but even if the defenses rule, the pace will be fast. I make it 158.


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The Michigan State/Iowa game is off the board.

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Never mind, the game tipped. DUH

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UW Milwaukee +10 @ Bradley
Braves in a letdown spot coming off their big win at Drake, but the key to this play is that Bradley point guard Ruffin was arrested last night and has been suspended. The Braves played several games without him, but their performance fell off considerably. Normally one guy isn't worth 3 points to the line, but I think that's the case with Bradley.


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The George Mason game has to hurt. It looked like they had that one well in hand after the first half.


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The George Mason game has to hurt. It looked like they had that one well in hand after the first half.


I was listening to the game on Sirius. They just completely fell apart in the second half. Their shots wouldn't fall, and every bounce went to Ohio.

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I hate to use this language, but Ohio just out-hustled them in the second half. Even in the first, it seemed like Ohio was playing tough D, but the shots from the outside were falling. As soon as that started to go away, GM had no answer on the inside.


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Irish Boy wrote:
The George Mason game has to hurt. It looked like they had that one well in hand after the first half.


Just one loss in a long day of trading.


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If you're monitoring these BB systems today, here are the remaining plays.

Miami Ohio/Valparaiso - total Over 123½ (-110) (5x
Delaware/Toledo - total over 118½ (-110) 5x
Ball State - spread +3 (-110) 4x
Ball State - moneyline (+130) 1x
Ball State/Eastern Kentucky - total Over 117½ (-110) 5x
Georgia Southern - spread +2 (-110) 4x
Georgia Southern - moneyline (+115) 1x
Samford - spread +1 (-115) 5x


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Miami Ohio is now at +1

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yeah i missed that and didn't play miami-O. Not sure what to do with that one anyway, since they opened as chalk. Not sure if that first the system strictly or not. the over on that game was easy tho.


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Any thoughts on the Kent State game tonight?


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I'm playing Kent State for 5x. I think 9 is too many. I make it 7.


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Thanks for the write up on Tennessee. I was already on them, but after seeing how much you liked them, I hit them harder, and got a little action on the ML (+250).

Thanks for all of the insight, Coast. All told, I am up about 6 units with Kent and the Clippers pending.

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After a long day, I ground out a profit of 19.25x . The bracket buster system plays weren't as profitable as previous years, but each angle was profitable and made about 5x in all.
Bracket buster dog Sides: 5-4-1, +1.3
Bracket buster totals: 5-4, +3
BBB moneylines: 4-4, +0.85
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Tenn +10 side
Tenn + 4.6 moneyline
Kent +5
Milwaukee -5.5


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There is one bracketbuster game today, and the total is under 125

Wright State vs. Illinois State O/U 116

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Yep. I'm on the over. Like Wright for a piece too.

521/522 LaSalle-Duquesne OVER 163, 1*
Back to the well with a LaSalle over. The last two matchups between these teams have gone 20 points or more over this number. The Explorers' offense is playing well and this should be a track meet from the opening tip. Earlier this year, these teams played a 101-84 game with 164 possessions. Last year, in their 2nd game after Duquesne had adopted their new style of fast play, these teams played a 111-106 172 possession game. I would expect this one to be right there with those.


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I think Tenn State-Northern Illinois at DeKalb is a bracket buster game too. First NIU game since the tragedy. Only one book has hung a total of 160, but I might think about the under there depending on where it's lined when it goes on the board..


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534 Rhode Island -2 vs. Saint Joe's, 1*
I've had RI with the same power rating, or better, than Joe most of the season. I make them 2 better than Joe now, meaning I make this line 6. RI has lost 3 straight, but just a week ago, they were -2 vs. X at home and now they're the same -2 vs. Joe? X is clearly much better than Joe (I make them 7 better than Joe in PR), so to have the same line is an over-reaction to RI's three Ls. Coming off 3 straight Ls with the last a home loss to Mass, I might even call this an "Alamo" game for the Rhodies.


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even though i've been treading water on my totals lately, i guess my boys in vegas still believe in me. They've steamed my duq-lasalle total to as high as 167.5. One guy I know max bet it at 12 different casinos...on and off screen. That will move a number. Even though I'm not going to do it, don't be surprised if somebody comes in and buys back and sends the number back down. 4-5 point moves is usually about where we see resistance.


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