Is it not a way to value labor? Then by definition it is a way to leverage power over someone else.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I don't think that's the case. Money is clearly a tool used for social control. Why do you go to work everyday?

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Freedom is our Strength.

virtually anything can be used as a tool for social control.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

They have no power over me. It is a business transaction. I choose to go to work to earn money so I can buy things I want. They choose to pay me because I make them silly amounts of money. I can leave any time. They can get rid of me at anytime.

If I didn't want to work for someone, then I could go back to cave men style hunting animals or picking berries. Or start my own business.


I love the left of center thinking that somehow employers are oppressors. The real oppressor (if there is one) is the government who takes a large portion of my earnings without giving me fair value in return and which I cannot escape without renouncing my citizenship.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Yeah Jorr and Ruff posting great pictures to get me all worked up. They are hitting at my most basic instincts. And I love them for it.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Few things work quite as well as money.

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Freedom is our Strength.

And most all of the other things can be bought with it.

What's not a fair value in return? What would you pay for safety and peace on the free market?

Every minute you work for your employer you make them more money, which means they have more power than you. And if they decide to part ways with you for almost any reason you have a black mark on your record, and you are less marketable. The power your employer has over your life is quite astonishing, especially if you are living paycheck to paycheck like the majority of Americans in the labor force. Now I know that you can say that they have the freedom to find other work, or they can start their own business. But for many people it simply is not an option due to other obligations or simply a lack of ability.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I've lost 3 jobs and sold a struggling business. you survive.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

Move

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Not a fair return- Approximately 40% of my earnings goes to the government. In return, I have crowded roads, airports, and an outdated Metra system. My local school district is poor quality. State universities are charging ridiculous amounts of money to students. The Medicare and Social Security system which I paid into will be insolvent before I get there. And if they fix that on the backs of younger workers, then its benefits are meager compared to what I paid in (SS is a great example because I can easily calculate what 12.4% of my income annually is worth up to the limit is worth). I would pay $1,000 per person per year for peace (so $4,000 for my family). I would pay $100 per person for safety. But they don't ask me what I am willing to pay.

Of course my employer makes money off of me. In return I am guaranteed a paycheck regardless of whether our claims experience is good (i.e. whether they actually earn a profit). They are risking billions in shareholder capital. I am risking zero. And the paycheck to paycheck thing is not my problem. If you're asking me or the government to solve that, well good luck. Other people making poor choices is a big part of life, and you're never going to prevent that.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I want my fair advantage. If "you" aren't smart enough to write the rules thoroughly enough, that's not my problem.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

But on the open market what is the value of safety? Not what you are willing to pay. How much of his income would a kid in Somalia pay for the safety of someone living in Sleepy Hollow?

Beyond all of your approximate values of the public services, would you have property rights without the state? And if so by what authority?

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Denis isn't an anarchist. He's not arguing for the dissolution of the state.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

The questions remain. I think Libertarianism works about as well as our attempts at Communism. It's an interesting theory that wilts under examination.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Yeah but you seem to be using anarchy and libertarianism interchangeably, with questions like "how would you do _____ without government?"

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

It wilts under examination in the context of contemporary America. I think it has some merits for a new society.

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you could move in a more socialist or a more libertarian direction. anything deserves examination.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

That's why you and I are philosophers, Hatchetman.

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Jesus, Dennis! You're really willing to contribute .25% of your annual income toward world peace? That's quite a splurge!

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Freedom is our Strength.

Sleepy Hollow? God the Jorr myths about me persist! I don't live in Sleepy Hollow.

Ruff, I only identify as a Libertarian because the modern Republican party no longer believes in small government and fiscal restrain. I believe in representative, limit government. I am also a huge fan of federalism, which serves this country well.

The rightful role of the Federal Government is the regulation of interstate commerce, control of a common currency, negotiation with foreign countries on treaties, and protection of the country. Most other functions are rightly reserved for state and local bodies. Now we are so far down the path of a large Federal Government and all its perverse functions, that folks like yourself cannot imagine a world without a nanny state. That's fine. My line of thinking has lost. I fully admit that.

You are correct that many theoretical parts of Libertarians cannot work in practice. Externalities like pollution can not be properly priced and thus need to be regulated and controlled.

Now I have answered all your inquiries of me. If you have more, I am sorry but I am done being trolled about this stuff.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I agree more with Denis' philosophy the older I get.

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He said we pay too much to the state. In that case the state's role should be redefined. Asking for a definition is not using terms interchangeably.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Mama wants a new LV purse, and her birthday is a week away. Plus I am in Vegas starting Sunday!


And damn what is with those Deck Tech guys, and their crazy bid to clean and stain my deck. I thought money meant I get to control them.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Did you end up buying a place Leash? I thought you were staying put.....

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Hawaii (fuck) You

That's not the correct town. You make me sound like Scorehead.

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Hopefully you looked and bought where I told you...remember Milf .....?

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I was trying to respect your privacy, Leash YourKids.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Lol, we looked there for sure.

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