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States Rights and the Federal government putting limits on them when they had no jurisdiction.

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Was there any particular "right" certain states wanted to preserve?

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Declaration of Independence and Constitution said directly opposing viewpoints about slavery in each. That laid the groundwork

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Cuz the North got sick of those Southern crackers and their Southern cracker ways!!!!! We won!!!!!! :cheers: :cheers:


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The North thought John Stockton was a better PG than Chris Paul.

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just say "Slavery" and you can answer a lot of history questions correctly.

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RFDC wrote:
The North thought John Stockton was a better PG than Chris Paul.


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The South wanted to create a million new jobs for African immigrants and the North didn't want them to.

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1,000,000 people died to expedite the inevitable. To people today this seems like a worthy sacrifice, but the 17 year old boy bleeding out in a hole in Antietam probably didn't spend his last living moments pondering the nobility of his gruesome end. It was a stupid war and never should have been fought. Providing rights to some at the cost of the lives of MANY (conscripted soldiers too, if you couldn't afford to get exempted you got drafted) is not something we should celebrate today, especially when slavery's days were clearly numbered already.


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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 8:08 pm 
The way the North was speaking to the South was NOT OK.


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1,000,000 people died to expedite the inevitable. To people today this seems like a worthy sacrifice, but the 17 year old boy bleeding out in a hole in Antietam probably didn't spend his last living moments pondering the nobility of his gruesome end. It was a stupid war and never should have been fought. Providing rights to some at the cost of the lives of MANY (conscripted soldiers too, if you couldn't afford to get exempted you got drafted) is not something we should celebrate today, especially when slavery's days were clearly numbered already.


People in the south love celebrating the Civil...I mean...War of Northern Aggression. Shit, South Carolina was flying the Stars and Bars at the capitol until just recently.

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for years I thought states vs federal rights. it is really a mix of that and slavery. but it was about slavery. weather a state had the right to have slavery or not have slavery.


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Slavery is the big one, but without it you still have sectionalism and questions of can a state nullify a law.

Remember, South Carolina nearly left the union 30 years before the Civil War, and it was over tariffs not slavery.

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economics too. tcotton to england would have taken a huge hit for the North.


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1,000,000 people died to expedite the inevitable. To people today this seems like a worthy sacrifice, but the 17 year old boy bleeding out in a hole in Antietam probably didn't spend his last living moments pondering the nobility of his gruesome end. It was a stupid war and never should have been fought. Providing rights to some at the cost of the lives of MANY (conscripted soldiers too, if you couldn't afford to get exempted you got drafted) is not something we should celebrate today, especially when slavery's days were clearly numbered already.


People in the south love celebrating the Civil...I mean...War of Northern Aggression. Shit, South Carolina was flying the Stars and Bars at the capitol until just recently.

Yes, when people lose their children in war they tend to want to memorialize them. Crazy concept.

The Civil War is actually a bit more recent than people realize. Civil War veterans were still alive, about the same age WW2 vets are now, when the US entered its modern era with a crystallized culture in the 1930's and 40's. There are even still children of Civil War veterans alive today, shit the last Civil War widow died in 2003! To these people, who the conflict affected very directly and in a way nobody from this era can possibly understand, those symbols are a coping mechanism for a lost generation.

A lot of people think Confederate soldiers dont deserve respect or recognition for their sacrifices because they are on the wrong side of history. I think that people who feel that way should spend a few months battling dysentery before suffering a 3 day artillery bombardment before they chose to comment on the character of men who fought and died in some of the worst ways imaginable.


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America wrote:
1,000,000 people died to expedite the inevitable. To people today this seems like a worthy sacrifice, but the 17 year old boy bleeding out in a hole in Antietam probably didn't spend his last living moments pondering the nobility of his gruesome end. It was a stupid war and never should have been fought. Providing rights to some at the cost of the lives of MANY (conscripted soldiers too, if you couldn't afford to get exempted you got drafted) is not something we should celebrate today, especially when slavery's days were clearly numbered already.


People in the south love celebrating the Civil...I mean...War of Northern Aggression. Shit, South Carolina was flying the Stars and Bars at the capitol until just recently.

Yes, when people lose their children in war they tend to want to memorialize them. Crazy concept.

The Civil War is actually a bit more recent than people realize. Civil War veterans were still alive, about the same age WW2 vets are now, when the US entered its modern era with a crystallized culture in the 1930's and 40's. There are even still children of Civil War veterans alive today, shit the last Civil War widow died in 2003! To these people, who the conflict affected very directly and in a way nobody from this era can possibly understand, those symbols are a coping mechanism for a lost generation.

A lot of people think Confederate soldiers dont deserve respect or recognition for their sacrifices because they are on the wrong side of history. I think that people who feel that way should spend a few months battling dysentery before suffering a 3 day artillery bombardment before they chose to comment on the character of men who fought and died in some of the worst ways imaginable.


So you do want people to celebrate Civil War?

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The last Civil War widow died in 2003?

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I think people who suffered directly from the war had mythologize it to make sense of the horrors they witnessed and family members they lost. That mythology had become ingrained in southern culture even as the Civil War generation and their children died off. I dont think I'd go so far as to call it a celebration, but even if it were I dont have a problem celebrating the sacrifices of brave men who died horrible deaths that no common person deserves.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
The last Civil War widow died in 2003?

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5106000/ns/us ... eran-dies/


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
The last Civil War widow died in 2003?



Franklin Pierce has grandchildren that are still alive.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
The last Civil War widow died in 2003?

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5106000/ns/us ... eran-dies/



OK. I guess my definition of a war widow would be the wife of a guy who died in the war.

I'd say she's just a widow.

But, whatever.

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Franklin Pierce has grandchildren that are still alive.


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I think people who suffered directly from the war had mythologize it to make sense of the horrors they witnessed and family members they lost. That mythology had become ingrained in southern culture even as the Civil War generation and their children died off. I dont think I'd go so far as to call it a celebration, but even if it were I dont have a problem celebrating the sacrifices of brave men who died horrible deaths that no common person deserves.


But the Civil War was over a hundred years ago. Shouldn't they just get over it? Shit, my ancestors were still living in Europe at the time and I bet MANY people living in the south today dont have any connection to the war.

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My ancestors came over about 10 years before the Civil War because everybody was dying from a lack of potatoes.

We don't talk about it much.

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