You people will probably be asking for a parade or some shit.

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Again, the children of Civil War veterans existed in substantial numbers until the around the 1970's. Would you tell orphans of Vietnam to "just get over it"? What about KIA from the Normandy Invasion? My guess is no, because unlike Confederate soldiers you are taught (in the north) to respect those who died in WW2 because of the nobility of the conflict in which they perished.

I think your gripe here is specific to the Civil War, and even moreso Confederate dead, because you've assigned moral relativism to the conflict. Confederates = bad guys, Union = good guys. I personally do not see the difference, just a whole bunch of wasted life in a dumb war that never should've happened.

Pretty lucky that they didnt get drafted.

A fellow geek

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don't people write like really long books about this?

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With the 3rd pick of the 1861 Civil War Draft, the Chicago Bears Pick ....... JEFFERSON DAVIS.......

Are all of America's takes this bad or just the ones I read?

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HE WAS FIGHTING AGAINST CHILDREN!!

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I assume you share the same feelings for the children of slaves as you do the children of civil war veterans?

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Apparently.

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To answer the original question: Not Lincoln's desire to end slavery, evidently.

Maybe Yahoo! Answers knows?

Lycos, man. Lycos.

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Lincoln didnt care about Slavery early on. He just wanted to keep the union together. He even used the N word. But that was the norm back then. He also shared a bed with another man. But it was not what you think. Guys did that back then and even throughout the 1950s.

Abe Lincoln desired to end slavery about as much as Trump desires to end NAFTA.

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And to think that Abe actually stood for something and not a attention seeking whiny petulant bitch. Then again His supporters weren't either

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It's funny how the State's Rights folks of the last century pressed that theme

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Except for everything he said on the topic literally ever, SAVE for some choice quotes you strip of all context and hold up as the only things you'll consider as his thoughts on the subject, then yeah.

Long Time Gay is better.

TL; DR: slavery

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I didn't know you where a nerd gamer like myself and a few others that keep it hidden round here.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

I never knew how a guy that never makes a move to end something is somehow desirous to bring it to an end. Lincoln's hand was forced so I don't know how you can conclude that he desired to bring slavery to an end. At best he was being transparent. At worst he was being disingenuous and phony.

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At best, he pretty much ended slavery.

I find it awfully strange that in Arlington County and/or Alexandria (forget exactly which), right over the river from our capital, there's a major thoroughfare called the Jefferson Davis Highway. You'd think they would have changed that by now. I mean, this isn't some backwater, this is one of the wealthiest and most Democratic parts of the country.

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Democrats wanted to let the South go and keep slavery.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

You have the critical thinking abilities of an algal bloom.

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Tell me I am wrong.

In the United States Presidential election of 1864, Abraham Lincoln was re-elected as president. Lincoln ran under the National Union banner against his former top Civil War general, the Democratic candidate, George B. McClellan. McClellan was the "peace candidate" but did not personally believe in his party's platform.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

And of course, he is going to double-down.

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Byproduct of winning the war. Little to do with his "desires" because as he stated many times his desire was to preserve the Union. I can't give a guy credit for doing something that wasn't necessarily part of his objective. I'm not going to knock anyone that does but the issue of slavery hits a little close to home. He took a circuitous route to ending slavery at best. He accommodated it every step of the way.

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