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Have you ever said the N-Word?
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We already have one liar.


I'm really just curious as to why you're so fixated on these kinds of issues. Although I am glad we're not talking under the phony "state's rights" flag.

And for the record I'm abstaining from voting here


If you abstain from voting I'll abstain from answering your question.

And what is with your fixation on dual federalism? Why do you think it is bad or "phony"?


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We already have one liar.


I'm really just curious as to why you're so fixated on these kinds of issues. Although I am glad we're not talking under the phony "state's rights" flag.

And for the record I'm abstaining from voting here

And tomorrow you'll rant about voter suppression ... :wink:

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all the time. Probably up there with "and", "the" and "weed" on the Mt. Rushmore of words I say the most.


Do you get mad if people say k_ike?


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For a while wasn't it a think for young whites to act like rappers?



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No doubt. His theme song was discussed in one of the music threads.

I was raised to despise the word. I'm certain I said it a few times in my teens and then struggled with why I used a word that I cringe when others use it.

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Don Tiny wrote:
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We already have one liar.


I'm really just curious as to why you're so fixated on these kinds of issues. Although I am glad we're not talking under the phony "state's rights" flag.

And for the record I'm abstaining from voting here

And tomorrow you'll rant about voter suppression ... :wink:


You know me so well :farao:

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Don Tiny wrote:
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We already have one liar.


I'm really just curious as to why you're so fixated on these kinds of issues. Although I am glad we're not talking under the phony "state's rights" flag.

And for the record I'm abstaining from voting here

And tomorrow you'll rant about voter suppression ... :wink:

And Reagan. :wink: :lol:

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please who hasn't repeated lines from Blazing Saddles

But we don't want the Irish

Or the Bad News Bears: "All we got on this team are a bunch of Jews, gentlemen, burrito, pansies, and a booger-eatin' moron!"


God I wish I could remember Archie Bunker's rant about his classifications.

Or have a discussion with the guy in Wrigleyville who called me an eggplant

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I read Huckleberry Finn to my daughter a couple years ago.

That was a tough one to teach....219 N-words.

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Regular Reader wrote:
formerlyknownas wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
please who hasn't repeated lines from Blazing Saddles

But we don't want the Irish

Or the Bad News Bears: "All we got on this team are a bunch of Jews, gentlemen, burrito, pansies, and a booger-eatin' moron!"


God I wish I could remember Archie Bunker's rant about his classifications.

Or have a discussion with the guy in Wrigleyville who called me an eggplant

This one?

Mike Stivic:
Why is Jefferson number 2?

Archie Bunker:
Because, Meathead, there can only be one number 1 and one number 2 and life made Jefferson number 2 long before I come along.

Gloria Stivic:
So then Puerto Ricans are number 3 then? Huh, Daddy?

Archie Bunker:
Well not necessarily there, Little Goil. Yas Puerto Ricans can be 4. Yas Japs and yas Chinks can be 3 - 3A, 3B.

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formerlyknownas wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
formerlyknownas wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
please who hasn't repeated lines from Blazing Saddles

But we don't want the Irish

Or the Bad News Bears: "All we got on this team are a bunch of Jews, gentlemen, burrito, pansies, and a booger-eatin' moron!"


God I wish I could remember Archie Bunker's rant about his classifications.

Or have a discussion with the guy in Wrigleyville who called me an eggplant

This one?

Mike Stivic:
Why is Jefferson number 2?

Archie Bunker:
Because, Meathead, there can only be one number 1 and one number 2 and life made Jefferson number 2 long before I come along.

Gloria Stivic:
So then Puerto Ricans are number 3 then? Huh, Daddy?

Archie Bunker:
Well not necessarily there, Little Goil. Yas Puerto Ricans can be 4. Yas Japs and yas Chinks can be 3 - 3A, 3B.



By making people look at themselves using jokes as the tool Archie may have done as much for race in this country as many others.

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i'm white and yes i have. probably sometimes when i was a teenager sometimes joking with my black friends or maybe even in anger a few times.

if i say it at all anymore its basically me singing along to rap songs. otherwise, i see no use for it in my vocabulary.


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If I were a black dude and I had a white friend who claimed he never said it, I'd stop being his friend.


I agree. That being said I haven't used racial slurs for any reason as an adult. I'm sure I did as a kid but nothing comes to mind. I never understood the guy/gal who tries to justify it by say that it only happens in road rage incidents.

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Nas wrote:
I never understood the guy/gal who tries to justify it by say that it only happens in road rage incidents.


Do you mean you've never tried to understand or you just can't. If you can't, why not?


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I never understood the guy/gal who tries to justify it by say that it only happens in road rage incidents.


Do you mean you've never tried to understand or you just can't. If you can't, why not?


I just think you should own your use of the word. I understand being angry but there are MANY more insults to throw out. If you pissed me off in traffic I may want to fight you and I'll definitely call you a bitch or a fucking burrito but a racial slur wouldn't pop into my head. I guess being black makes me not understand it. That's kinda ironic.

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formerlyknownas wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
formerlyknownas wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
please who hasn't repeated lines from Blazing Saddles

But we don't want the Irish

Or the Bad News Bears: "All we got on this team are a bunch of Jews, gentlemen, burrito, pansies, and a booger-eatin' moron!"


God I wish I could remember Archie Bunker's rant about his classifications.

Or have a discussion with the guy in Wrigleyville who called me an eggplant

This one?

Mike Stivic:
Why is Jefferson number 2?

Archie Bunker:
Because, Meathead, there can only be one number 1 and one number 2 and life made Jefferson number 2 long before I come along.

Gloria Stivic:
So then Puerto Ricans are number 3 then? Huh, Daddy?

Archie Bunker:
Well not necessarily there, Little Goil. Yas Puerto Ricans can be 4. Yas Japs and yas Chinks can be 3 - 3A, 3B.


That was good one, but it was more along the line about "what makes America great" (sorry I can't post the YouTube link from my phone)

Something to the effect of:
America is great because all kinds of losers and misfits can follow the words on the statue of liberty and be free to live in their own community or get their heads bashed

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Nas wrote:
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I never understood the guy/gal who tries to justify it by say that it only happens in road rage incidents.


Do you mean you've never tried to understand or you just can't. If you can't, why not?


I just think you should own your use of the word. I understand being angry but there are MANY more insults to throw out. If you pissed me off in traffic I may want to fight you and I'll definitely call you a bitch or a fucking burrito but a racial slur wouldn't pop into my head. I guess being black makes me not understand it. That's kinda ironic.


Do you own using "burrito" like you want others to own using "n**ger"?


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Interesting you ask this question coming in from O'hare a few weeks ago a heard a White guy openly using the word to describe whites. He was sitting behind me talking about how he hates white people. He kept saying those "N" are whatever. It was crazy because I didn't really know what to make of it.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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I never understood the guy/gal who tries to justify it by say that it only happens in road rage incidents.


Do you mean you've never tried to understand or you just can't. If you can't, why not?


I just think you should own your use of the word. I understand being angry but there are MANY more insults to throw out. If you pissed me off in traffic I may want to fight you and I'll definitely call you a bitch or a fucking burrito but a racial slur wouldn't pop into my head. I guess being black makes me not understand it. That's kinda ironic.


Do you own using "burrito" like you want others to own using "n**ger"?


I do. And feel the shame I'd like to think most do when I let one fly

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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I never understood the guy/gal who tries to justify it by say that it only happens in road rage incidents.


Do you mean you've never tried to understand or you just can't. If you can't, why not?


I just think you should own your use of the word. I understand being angry but there are MANY more insults to throw out. If you pissed me off in traffic I may want to fight you and I'll definitely call you a bitch or a fucking burrito but a racial slur wouldn't pop into my head. I guess being black makes me not understand it. That's kinda ironic.


Do you own using "burrito" like you want others to own using "n**ger"?


Yes. I'm a recovering homophobe. That being said it's laughable to compare the words but I know you will probably try.

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I have used the word my entire life. Nothing I'm proud of but the only thing that I will say is that the context is different. At this stage I don't know if it would bother me if their was widespread use of it by whites. On some level been desensitized to it I think.

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Nas wrote:
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I never understood the guy/gal who tries to justify it by say that it only happens in road rage incidents.


Do you mean you've never tried to understand or you just can't. If you can't, why not?


I just think you should own your use of the word. I understand being angry but there are MANY more insults to throw out. If you pissed me off in traffic I may want to fight you and I'll definitely call you a bitch or a fucking burrito but a racial slur wouldn't pop into my head. I guess being black makes me not understand it. That's kinda ironic.


Do you own using "burrito" like you want others to own using "n**ger"?


Yes. I'm a recovering homophobe. That being said it's laughable to compare the words but I know you will probably try.


It just seems odd to me that you would dictate to others their upper limit of outrage at your usage of a word, but would ridicule me if I told you how upset you could be at the use of the N-word.

Do you see the disconnect?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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I never understood the guy/gal who tries to justify it by say that it only happens in road rage incidents.


Do you mean you've never tried to understand or you just can't. If you can't, why not?


I just think you should own your use of the word. I understand being angry but there are MANY more insults to throw out. If you pissed me off in traffic I may want to fight you and I'll definitely call you a bitch or a fucking burrito but a racial slur wouldn't pop into my head. I guess being black makes me not understand it. That's kinda ironic.


Do you own using "burrito" like you want others to own using "n**ger"?


Yes. I'm a recovering homophobe. That being said it's laughable to compare the words but I know you will probably try.


It just seems odd to me that you would dictate to others their upper limit of outrage at your usage of a word, but would ridicule me if I told you how upset you could be at the use of the N-word.

Do you see the disconnect?


Okay. Have a blessed day.

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Okay. Have a blessed day.


I'll take that as "Yes, I see the disconnect, but I'm unwilling to address it because I would have to admit a fault or series of faults." Thanks, you too.


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No that's me saying that I answered your questions and gave my opinion but I don't have the energy or desire to have this type of debate. I'll just stick to sports.

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No that's me saying that I answered your questions and gave my opinion but I don't have the energy or desire to have this type of debate. I'll just stick to sports.


Either people can have their maximum level of outraged at the usage of a term or phrase dictated to them, or they cannot. It's rather simple.


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No that's me saying that I answered your questions and gave my opinion but I don't have the energy or desire to have this type of debate. I'll just stick to sports.


Either people can have their maximum level of outraged at the usage of a term or phrase dictated to them, or they cannot. It's rather simple.


Fair enough. You can be just as pissed at me calling you a bitch as Adam Jones was at being called the n-word.

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Okay. Have a blessed day.


I'll take that as "Yes, I see the disconnect, but I'm unwilling to address it because I would have to admit a fault or series of faults." Thanks, you too.

He already admitted fault in his previous post. Some of you guys have pretty questionable opinions on this topic to be honest.

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Okay. Have a blessed day.


I'll take that as "Yes, I see the disconnect, but I'm unwilling to address it because I would have to admit a fault or series of faults." Thanks, you too.

He already admitted fault in his previous post. Some of you guys have pretty questionable opinions on this topic to be honest.


Agreed. We've probably all used it, but I'd never try to justify it. It seems that that is the goal of some, and I'm not sure why. It's an awful word with terrible historical connotations.

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No that's me saying that I answered your questions and gave my opinion but I don't have the energy or desire to have this type of debate. I'll just stick to sports.


Either people can have their maximum level of outraged at the usage of a term or phrase dictated to them, or they cannot. It's rather simple.


Fair enough. You can be just as pissed at me calling you a bitch as Adam Jones was at being called the n-word.


Except I'm an adult who would see your usage of the word--whatever it was--and understand that it is more likely rooted in your ineffectual system of dealing with anger and anxiety than it is your distaste for women, or homosexuals, etc.

But once again, we're back to you wanting to tell people--or imply--how mad they can get about some words, but not wanting the same dictated to you. I mean, why else would you bring in the word "bitch" into a discussion that had up until now focused solely on different types of slurs, if not to imply it would be ludicrous for someone to be as upset at "bitch" as a black person would be at the N-word, right?


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