Holy shit the Celtics cheerleaders... They make the loveables look amatuer

_________________
the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

Beal playing some inspired ball for the first time ever pretty much.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

John I take horrible shots wall.

Drive the ball you fuckin moron.

_________________
the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

Never thought this would turn into an Olynyck/Beal duel

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Seriously, I can't believe what I'm seeing. Kelly fuckin Olynyck

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

He is destroying Morris. However the hell he wants it.

_________________

It is crazy. but as they say in game 7 usually it comes down to some role player going off.

_________________
"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Rough night for the "Wall is better than Butler" argument

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Wall is about the same as Butler. Wall has more ability but Butler is a little smarter player. Not by much though

_________________
the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

Butler's way smarter and a much better two way player. He's definitely better than John Wall.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Bad troll job.

_________________

Not trolling at all. If given a choice to build around either I wouldn't hesitate to choose Butler. The advanced stats favor him across the board and so does the eye test. Wall gets lost on defense and turns it over way too much on offense. Also has questionable shot selection obviously.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I'm not the biggest Wall fan but he is a better player than Jimmy Butler. He didn't play well last night but Washington doesn't get there without him. Butler might not have been the most impactful player on his own team.

_________________

Agreed, if I'm picking a team and my options are Wall or Butler..I'm taking Wall.

_________________

Yep. He is more impactful than Butler.

_________________

A point guard should be more impactful

_________________
I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Michael Carter Williams isn't.

_________________

is Rondo?????? You pick a bench player

_________________
I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

You made it about the position and not the player so I followed suit.

_________________

is Rondo?????? You pick a bench player [/quote]

You made it about the position and not the player so I followed suit.[/quote]
No you didn't....what's the most impactful position on the court

_________________
I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I tried to warn you about John Wall.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You made it about the position and not the player so I followed suit.[/quote]
No you didn't....what's the most impactful position on the court[/quote]

Depends on the player. In G.S. It's the PF slot in S.A it's the 3 in Cleveland it's the 3. You can't universally say that's it point guard. In Dallas it's been PF for 20 years.

Wall is better. He makes guys around him better. Butler makes no one better.

Butler runs a lot of point for the Bulls by the way.

_________________

No he isn't. Butler impacts both ends of the court. And he's clearly by far the best player on the Bulls so I'm not sure what you're even talking about.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

"]
A point guard should be more impactful[/quote]

Michael Carter Williams isn't.[/quote] is Rondo?????? You pick a bench player [/quote]

You made it about the position and not the player so I followed suit.[/quote]
No you didn't....what's the most impactful position on the court[/quote]

Depends on the player. In G.S. It's the PF slot in S.A it's the 3 in Cleveland it's the 3. You can't universally say that's it point guard. In Dallas it's been PF for 20 years.

Wall is better. He makes guys around him better. Butler makes no one better.

Butler runs a lot of point for the Bulls by the way.[/quote]
Who on the Bulls would John make better?

_________________
I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Michael Carter Williams isn't.[/quote] is Rondo?????? You pick a bench player [/quote]

You made it about the position and not the player so I followed suit.[/quote]
No you didn't....what's the most impactful position on the court[/quote]

Depends on the player. In G.S. It's the PF slot in S.A it's the 3 in Cleveland it's the 3. You can't universally say that's it point guard. In Dallas it's been PF for 20 years.

Wall is better. He makes guys around him better. Butler makes no one better.

Butler runs a lot of point for the Bulls by the way.[/quote]
Who on the Bulls would John make better?[/quote]

Bobby Portis.

_________________

is Rondo?????? You pick a bench player [/quote]

You made it about the position and not the player so I followed suit.[/quote]
No you didn't....what's the most impactful position on the court[/quote]

Depends on the player. In G.S. It's the PF slot in S.A it's the 3 in Cleveland it's the 3. You can't universally say that's it point guard. In Dallas it's been PF for 20 years.

Wall is better. He makes guys around him better. Butler makes no one better.

Butler runs a lot of point for the Bulls by the way.[/quote]
Who on the Bulls would John make better?[/quote]

Bobby Portis.[/quote]
wrong

_________________
I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Butler is a better scorer than Wall per 100 posesssions. He is a better rebounder. He has a better assist to turnover ratio. He is a much better defender and is acknowledged as such with all defensive team honors. He had a better PER, W/48, BPM, and VORP. He has better traditional shooting percentages and a higher TS%.

There is no case to be made that John Wall is better than Jimmy Butler. Even if you disregard all the statistical evidence showing Butler is better and go by the eye test, the result is the same. Butler doesn't turn the ball over constantly and take bad shots nearly as often. He doesn't fall asleep on defense. He's better at making more difficult shots and is a far superior half court player.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Which player will finish higher on all NBA teams. Which person will garner more votes for MVP? I think there is your argument right there. We both know the answer to that

_________________

Jimmy Butler is the answer to that too

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul