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IMU

Post subject: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:04 pm

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Is this a trade you want to see the Cubs make before the trade deadline this season?

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:14 pm

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Absolutely: can't field, can't hit for average, get whatever pitching you can get

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:17 pm

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As of now, yes.

Now that he's out of the leadoff spot, if he starts hitting I can live with the bad defense and might change my mind.

I could never be a GM though. I get too emotionally attached to players. They're my friends.

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:18 pm

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I would need to know more about what pitcher.

If it is Quintana then no way.

For some other pitchers I would consider it.

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:19 pm

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Schwarber for James Shields

Boom Steak dinner!

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:47 pm

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I'd call Quintana a #3 , it would take more than Schwarber for Q straight up. I'm all for moving him or Baez for a starter, there are guys to take their position over right now.

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:37 pm

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They should probably be looking to trade super awesome five position player Ian Happ while he is on a hot streak as well.

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:40 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

They should probably be looking to trade super awesome five position player Ian Happ while he is on a hot streak as well.

Per unnamed GM sources, teams value Schwarber and Baez much more than Happ at this point in time. Since Happ can replace either of those positions, it would make sense for the Cubs to keep Happ through this season.

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:46 pm

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312player wrote:

I'd call Quintana a #3 , it would take more than Schwarber for Q straight up. I'm all for moving him or Baez for a starter, there are guys to take their position over right now.

2015: 8th best WAR in AL, 2016: 3rd best WAR in AL....

that is better than a #3 pitcher

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:49 pm

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I would trade Schwarber straight up for Quintana. Without hesitation.

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 2:10 pm

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IMU wrote:

I would trade Schwarber straight up for Quintana. Without hesitation.

Everyone should. This shouldn't even be a question. 3+ years of an all star pitcher in his prime versus 4+ years of a hitter at the beginning of his career. I'd like to hear someone make a case otherwise.

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 2:15 pm

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IMU wrote:

I would trade Schwarber straight up for Quintana. Without hesitation.

Done.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 2:59 pm

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IMU wrote:

I would trade Schwarber straight up for Quintana. Without hesitation.

As would I, unfortunately Hahn would laugh n hang up.

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:12 pm

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312player wrote:

IMU wrote:

I would trade Schwarber straight up for Quintana. Without hesitation.

As would I, unfortunately Hahn would laugh n hang up.

He should. "Babe" missed last year with an injury and has sucked this year. It would take a lot more to get Quintana.

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:42 pm

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Hatchetman wrote:

IMU wrote:

I would trade Schwarber straight up for Quintana. Without hesitation.

Done.

Absolutely not

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:08 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

IMU wrote:

I would trade Schwarber straight up for Quintana. Without hesitation.

Doesn't it kind of matter who the hitter is?

We know who the pitcher is, an "All Star" pitcher which mean's he's good and we know he's in his prime.

We don't know who the hitter is in your hypo, some anonymous hitter at the beginning of his career, there some hitters who had all star careers at the beginning of their careers. {Note, Kyle Schwarber, is not one of those hitters.}

Long before Schwarber was hitting below .200 I was on board with the Schwarber + package for Quintana.

Problem though, you read how Theo feels about Schwarber and it's hard not to think that he's less than objective on this.

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walkrman5

Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:30 pm

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schwarber value at all-time-low. He needs to go to the minors and work his way back. Cubs have enough pieces to fill the 25 man roster w/o schwarber on it.

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:49 pm

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I was on board for moving Schwarber last year, you can only really hide him @ first base..we need pitching, have enough bats.

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:49 pm

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walkrman5 wrote:

schwarber value at all-time-low. He needs to go to the minors and work his way back. Cubs have enough pieces to fill the 25 man roster w/o schwarber on it.

You're not wrong.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:00 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

IMU wrote:

I would trade Schwarber straight up for Quintana. Without hesitation.

We do know who the hitter is and it is not my hypo. I am posting within the context of this thread.

Agreed that this is academic. Theo isn't trading Schwarber, it would take more than him to get Quintana and the Sox are more interested in guys with the full six years of control in any exchange.

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Post subject: Re: Schwarber moved for #2 or #3 SP - Yay/nay?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:46 pm