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I don't think I have eloquently stated my thoughts on the matter, so let me try again...

People get absolutely crushed on this board for things they SAY all the time. And there's nothing wrong with that... in fact, I love it. I've gone hard at Chas MANY times for comments he's made on the board that I thought were racist, or hateful, or just plain stupid.

But this has absolutely nothing to do with the message board. It's a very personal matter that affected his life deeply. It would be very different if Chas had spent the past five years railing on sex offenders on the board and this was just a huge WYC (but even then it's information we shouldn't have known).

Again, there is a huge difference between things people say on here (fair game) and personal info unearthed solely to harass that person. My question is, what is the end game? What are we trying to accomplish? There are MANY - some of whom are good friends of mine - challenging the authenticity of regret or saying he's lying or preaching to him how he should feel. The reality is that he didn't owe any of us a fucking explanation to begin with! This has nothing to do with the message board!

If people are that concerned over it, you should ask that he be banned. It would make a lot more sense than continually hitting him over the head because of something he did ( that was admittedly terrible but is still no one's business). We should ask the wise men that he be banned because of his legal status because we don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable. Or we can just continue to sit here and watch while Baby Mcnown calls him a piece of shit pedophile and tells him how he can gain message board forgiveness for an act that has nothing to do with the message board.

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I don't think I have eloquently stated my thoughts on the matter, so let me try again...

People get absolutely crushed on this board for things they SAY all the time. And there's nothing wrong with that... in fact, I love it. I've gone hard at Chas MANY times for comments he's made on the board that I thought were racist, or hateful, or just plain stupid.

But this has absolutely nothing to do with the message board. It's a very personal matter that affected his life deeply. It would be very different if Chas had spent the past five years railing on sex offenders on the board and this was just a huge WYC (but even then it's information we shouldn't have known).

Again, there is a huge difference between things people say on here (fair game) and personal info unearthed solely to harass that person. My question is, what is the end game? What are we trying to accomplish? There are MANY - some of whom are good friends of mine - challenging the authenticity of regret or saying he's lying or preaching to him how he should feel. The reality is that he didn't owe any of us a fucking explanation to begin with! This has nothing to do with the message board!

If people are that concerned over it, you should ask that he be banned. It would make a lot more sense than continually hitting him over the head because of something he did ( that was admittedly terrible but is still no one's business). We should ask the wise men that he be banned because of his legal status because we don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable. Or we can just continue to sit here and watch while Baby Mcnown calls him a piece of shit pedophile and tells him how he can gain message board forgiveness for an act that has nothing to do with the message board.

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Keep being obtuse. His laundry list of excuses is on page 7 or 8 if you choose to read it.
I read the entire thread.
I am not sure that you did. If you really did, I think it would be a good idea for you to start around page 7-8 and read this thread again. This time, pay specific attention to Chas's replies and how in his first reply there is a giant run-on paragraph of excuses and things he has dealt with in his life before he attempts to explain what supposedly landed him on the list. He also ends that post with some finger pointing and trying to minimize what he did by saying others here have done things that are just as bad if not worse.

If you do all this and still do not understand my point, then I don't know what to tell you.

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Chas said to ask questions...I have one. Your story doesn't make sense when you say you drove 3/4 of the way there and turned around, but still got arrested. Unless you were just driving around the block, 3/4 of the way there has to be a mile or two away at a minimum. No way you get arrested for that unless you admitted what you were doing to the cops who pulled you over. Did you admit to where you were going and what you were intending to do once you got there? Otherwise, I think your PD was as bad as they get (was it Julie?) to let you plead guilty.


I was a block away and they had my picture. Did not drive I walked to the area.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Keep being obtuse. His laundry list of excuses is on page 7 or 8 if you choose to read it.
I read the entire thread.
I am not sure that you did. If you really did, I think it would be a good idea for you to start around page 7-8 and read this thread again. This time, pay specific attention to Chas's replies and how in his first reply there is a giant run-on paragraph of excuses and things he has dealt with in his life before he attempts to explain what supposedly landed him on the list. He also ends that post with some finger pointing and trying to minimize what he did by saying others here have done things that are just as bad if not worse.

If you do all this and still do not understand my point, then I don't know what to tell you.


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Here is my response ,explanation whatever.

Well, as this should not be any of your guys business, but as it now is. I will lay it all out
This is not an excuse but an explanation of things as they were. When the incident happened I wa

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I agree with leash. Chas does get to try and explain himself. Everyone should have that right. Everyone else is then allowed to decide how much of it they think is true or relevant.

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This is not an excuse but an explanation of things as they were. When the incident happened I wa
And after "I wa" you listed a bunch of stuff that went wrong in your life. You also ended the post by pointing fingers at the police, attorneys, the criminal justice system, and other CFMB'ers. I am sorry you have had it rough and have clear mental health issues. That sucks and nobody should make fun of you for that. However you use that as a crutch all the time here, and you did so with the latest your latest issue here.

The best thing for you to do is just keep quiet about it. You have told your story, and that is it. Yet every time you post in this thread, you say you are not posting excuses, and then you list a bunch of qualifiers as to why things ended up the way they did for you. It does not make you come off as genuine IMO.

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I don't think I have eloquently stated my thoughts on the matter, so let me try again...

People get absolutely crushed on this board for things they SAY all the time. And there's nothing wrong with that... in fact, I love it. I've gone hard at Chas MANY times for comments he's made on the board that I thought were racist, or hateful, or just plain stupid.

But this has absolutely nothing to do with the message board. It's a very personal matter that affected his life deeply. It would be very different if Chas had spent the past five years railing on sex offenders on the board and this was just a huge WYC (but even then it's information we shouldn't have known).

Again, there is a huge difference between things people say on here (fair game) and personal info unearthed solely to harass that person. My question is, what is the end game? What are we trying to accomplish? There are MANY - some of whom are good friends of mine - challenging the authenticity of regret or saying he's lying or preaching to him how he should feel. The reality is that he didn't owe any of us a fucking explanation to begin with! This has nothing to do with the message board!

If people are that concerned over it, you should ask that he be banned. It would make a lot more sense than continually hitting him over the head because of something he did ( that was admittedly terrible but is still no one's business). We should ask the wise men that he be banned because of his legal status because we don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable. Or we can just continue to sit here and watch while Baby Mcnown calls him a piece of shit pedophile and tells him how he can gain message board forgiveness for an act that has nothing to do with the message board.


How many people live there?

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I don't think I have eloquently stated my thoughts on the matter, so let me try again...

People get absolutely crushed on this board for things they SAY all the time. And there's nothing wrong with that... in fact, I love it. I've gone hard at Chas MANY times for comments he's made on the board that I thought were racist, or hateful, or just plain stupid.

But this has absolutely nothing to do with the message board. It's a very personal matter that affected his life deeply. It would be very different if Chas had spent the past five years railing on sex offenders on the board and this was just a huge WYC (but even then it's information we shouldn't have known).

Again, there is a huge difference between things people say on here (fair game) and personal info unearthed solely to harass that person. My question is, what is the end game? What are we trying to accomplish? There are MANY - some of whom are good friends of mine - challenging the authenticity of regret or saying he's lying or preaching to him how he should feel. The reality is that he didn't owe any of us a fucking explanation to begin with! This has nothing to do with the message board!

If people are that concerned over it, you should ask that he be banned. It would make a lot more sense than continually hitting him over the head because of something he did ( that was admittedly terrible but is still no one's business). We should ask the wise men that he be banned because of his legal status because we don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable. Or we can just continue to sit here and watch while Baby Mcnown calls him a piece of shit pedophile and tells him how he can gain message board forgiveness for an act that has nothing to do with the message board.


:lol: :lol:

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That doesn't make sense. What do you mean by "tolerated"? Are you proposing he be banned?

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I do not think Chas should be banned unless somebody honestly feels threatened by his posting here.

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I do not think Chas should be banned unless somebody honestly feels threatened by his posting here.


If someone honestly felt threatened by chas posting here, they're a bigger BETA than leash.

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I do not think Chas should be banned unless somebody honestly feels threatened by his posting here.


If someone honestly felt threatened by chas posting here, they're a bigger BETA than leash.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:50 am 
I'm sorry Leash. Tell you what. We'll have DiCaro do a GoFundMe to raise money for Chas to offer to pay board members for your address. Cool? I mean he's such a kind and harmless person that needs our love. You should be completley ok with that. Maybe Nas can give you some tips on how to react to him threatening your family too.


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I do not think Chas should be banned unless somebody honestly feels threatened by his posting here.
If someone honestly felt threatened by chas posting here, they're a bigger BETA than leash.
I get that, but I don't have kids so it doesn't matter to me if he posts or not. I know the running joke here is that people who don't have kids should not comment on parental matters, but this is one instance where I can't honestly say how a parent could or should feel IMO.

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No one is talking about banning chas. It's still legal to question the accuracy of posts made by chas too.

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Got ¾ of the way there, turned around and they caught me as I was going back home. They said it was an intent to do it ,so it was the same as if I actually did it.


This is the part that I don't understand.


Me neither. If true, it would be worse than Minority Report.

I was interpreting it as the 'girl' he was talking to was LEOs waiting to give him the ol' Chris Hanson gimmick, and he got close enough that the lookout(s) saw him ... so even though he changed his mind @ the last minute, he'd already been spotted ... thus the 'intent' rigmarole.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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I do not think Chas should be banned unless somebody honestly feels threatened by his posting here.
If someone honestly felt threatened by chas posting here, they're a bigger BETA than leash.
I get that, but I don't have kids so it doesn't matter to me if he posts or not. I know the running joke here is that people who don't have kids should not comment on parental matters, but this is one instance where I can't honestly say how a parent could or should feel IMO.


You know, I don't really care if chas posts here or not.

If he posts his usual shit, I will give him shit like I usually do. Or I'll just ignore it, like I occasionally do.

I'm pretty sure my 2 year old has a better grip on spelling than he does, though...

Well, you know.

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On the Hansen shows that I have seen where guys do not show up but are still arrested, they are charged with a crime because of things they said in a chat. So maybe Chas said something or sent a pic that got him in trouble.

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I'm sorry Leash. Tell you what. We'll have DiCaro do a GoFundMe to raise money for Chas to offer to pay board members for your address. Cool? I mean he's such a kind and harmless person that needs our love. You should be completley ok with that. Maybe Nas can give you some tips on how to react to him threatening your family too.
This would be a lot more believable if you weren't so adversarial towards him in this thread. If you really did fear for your safety from him then you would be avoiding this thread or at least not acting like you are the prosecutor.

I think it more that you just don't like him and never have.

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I'm sorry Leash. Tell you what. We'll have DiCaro do a GoFundMe to raise money for Chas to offer to pay board members for your address. Cool? I mean he's such a kind and harmless person that needs our love. You should be completley ok with that. Maybe Nas can give you some tips on how to react to him threatening your family too.


Don't be disingenuous. Is this about your disdain for people on the list or the fact that you just don't like Chas and want to pile on?

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I'm sorry Leash. Tell you what. We'll have DiCaro do a GoFundMe to raise money for Chas to offer to pay board members for your address. Cool? I mean he's such a kind and harmless person that needs our love. You should be completley ok with that. Maybe Nas can give you some tips on how to react to him threatening your family too.


Don't be disingenuous. Is this about your disdain for people on the list or the fact that you just don't like Chas and want to pile on?

This sudden poor Chas brigade is really amusing. People like yourself who in the past have had no trouble ripping him for pages on end suddenly love him because his avatar should be PedoBear? Seriously? A fucking dude on the SO list was offering people money for my home address and me being mean to him is piling on? Really? Talk about disingenuous.


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I'm sorry Leash. Tell you what. We'll have DiCaro do a GoFundMe to raise money for Chas to offer to pay board members for your address. Cool? I mean he's such a kind and harmless person that needs our love. You should be completley ok with that. Maybe Nas can give you some tips on how to react to him threatening your family too.
This would be a lot more believable if you weren't so adversarial towards him in this thread. If you really did fear for your safety from him then you would be avoiding this thread or at least not acting like you are the prosecutor.

I think it more that you just don't like him and never have.

Read my response to Leash. Your own post here would be a lot more believable if it wasn't directed at me.


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On the Hansen shows that I have seen where guys do not show up but are still arrested, they are charged with a crime because of things they said in a chat. So maybe Chas said something or sent a pic that got him in trouble.


I thought those guys were the ones that made it to like the front yard, realized it was a trap, and tried to run.

Either way, those Hansen shows used to amuse me endlessly.

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Attacking B-Mac and questioning the authenticity of his posts is fine. Don't say a bad word about chas though. At some point I will have to start thinking MANY here support chas's words and actions.

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Attacking B-Mac and questioning the authenticity of his posts is fine. Don't say a bad word about chas though. At some point I will have to start thinking MANY here support chas's words and actions.


Oh, go fuck yourself. If you have to resort to bullshit accusations like that, then you're not even worth talking to.

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On the Hansen shows that I have seen where guys do not show up but are still arrested, they are charged with a crime because of things they said in a chat. So maybe Chas said something or sent a pic that got him in trouble.
I thought those guys were the ones that made it to like the front yard, realized it was a trap, and tried to run.

Either way, those Hansen shows used to amuse me endlessly.
They were and still are great. I just remember there was sometimes where he would read transcripts of the chat (I would like to blank my blank in your blank), and he would say, "you saying this is a crime."

Whatever story Chas tells or told, I don't really believe it.

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The reality here is that a lot of people can't separate their personal feelings from a situation. Then when their stance is shown to be inconsistent, they resort to stupid shit like recalling things that happened years ago or accusing people who are trying to be measured of "defending" pedophilia.

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Attacking B-Mac and questioning the authenticity of his posts is fine. Don't say a bad word about chas though. At some point I will have to start thinking MANY here support chas's words and actions.


Oh, go fuck yourself. If you have to resort to bullshit accusations like that, then you're not even worth talking to.


You'll defend me if I did in front of kids. This isn't about chas being outed anymore.

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