Actually, all of the Republican candidates were terrible, just a different brand of terrible than Trump. Same thing with Clinton, champion of a failed ideology that has massively increased human suffering across the globe, destabilized civil society, undermined the integrity of key public institutions (labor unions, universities, news organizations, etc), wreaked havoc on the environment, and increased the likelihood of large-scale military conflict. And yes, the deliberate implosion of the "New Deal Order"--in favor of neoliberal disorder--first initiated by Reagan and gleefully completed by the Clintons ("The era of 'big government' is over!"--makes them the philosophical progenitors of Donald Trump. When liberal institutions are dismantled and replaced with free market zealotry, isolated social problems are magnified and given the freedom to transmogrify into structural malignancies.

And who are you indicating has "buyer's remorse"? Trump's supporters remain loyal to him despite overwhelming (and long visible) evidence of his incompetence and corruption. This irrationality is itself a product of the cynical approach to social policy and immiserating economic strategy of leading neoliberals, including the Clintons.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

There are a few false statements here. Clinton didn't engage in any large scale military conflicts. That's a fact. When you state large scale suffering across the globe where? I can provide evidence of the past 2 guys and the damage they have done across the globe and CLinton would come out looking like Mother Theresa when compared to those two. Youre correct about continuing Reagan's free market ideology to some extent but you have been consistently wrong about the genesis of deindustrialization and free trade's role in it. If you don't believe me ask Denis and he'll provide clarification on it.

You are also wrong about Trump being better than the other candidates. He wasn't and isn't. He was a buffoon and now he is a political buffoon and anyone without blinders could have seen it. Saw this train wreck coming a mile away

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

Or being told how to feel because you are black.

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

You are the one being intentionally dishonest. I noticed that you cannot cite one instance where any of these points were addressed by people currently bashing her. As far as accusing someone of being racist I havent. If I believed that they were i'd state it. I do think that Trump's racism has been ignored by MANY on here. It should be easy to cite specifics. I don't want to hear that he is a scumbag or the equivalent that she is equally bad. Address specific instances of Trump racism. For some reason it seems to be difficult for MANY on here to do. SImply saying that he is racist and brushing it aside is insulting too.

i noticed that the Hillary detractors were conspicuously silent and the charge of racism wasn't levied either. It definitely wasn't emphasized.

That might actually get me out on the streets too. It's bad enough that regular police and even security guards are becoming more and more militarized, don't send the fucking U.S. Army into our cities.

It would also be pretty wise for Rahm to shut the fuck up about this rather than using it to take shots at Trump. Considering the shit the CPD has done on his watch, he doesn't really have any moral high ground.

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

You, of all people on this board, most attenuated to implications concerning slavery or other racial injustice, don't see the issue with Hillary Clinton waxing poetic about black murderers working in the governor's mansion to serve her and her family? Are you fucking serious? And the "we sent a few back to prison" meant nothing!?

Umm, I didn't claim Clinton engaged in large-scale military conflicts. Rather, I am simply making the admittedly trite observation that global neoliberal hegemony--which the Clintons worked to establish and maintain--has resulted in large scale misery while pushing us to the precipice of military apocalypse. Please make sure you read more carefully before accusing others of "making false statements".

I'm not sure what views you're attributing to me vis a vis "the genesis of deindustrialization and free trade's role in it." My view of the history of deindustrialization is influenced by a broad spectrum of social theorists and historians. In the United States, deindustrialization begins as an unintended consequence of American exceptionalist ideology--not free trade dogma per se-directly after World War II when U.S. economic strategists positioned our country as "the consumers of last resort" for the world's industrial surplus in order to help rebuild European economies and assimilate developing nations into the global capitalist order.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Do you even read what is posted here? This is from the thread cited above:



You are lying about previous content to deflect criticism of Hillary.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

You keep making the charge but at no point were the proposed actions of Trump considered racist. People disagreed but that charge wasn't levied. Maybe I'm wrong. I will reread the thread.

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

Not to speak for him, but LTG does speak out about racial injustice a lot. So it does seem fair to ask why this instance does not bother him compared to others.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Trae Young will be a bust. Book It!

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

1. You do know that we are talking about convicted felons.

2. Its difficult to argue racial injustice when white convicts are subjected to the same "injustice"

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

I think you can be against murder and still think that a lavish Southern mansion enlisting unpaid black men as The Help is a little creepy.

Trae Young will be a bust. Book It!

1. You do know that we are talking about convicted felons.

2. Its difficult to argue racial injustice when white convicts are subjected to the same "injustice"

Also, are you certain that everyone there was black? Not that that would matter to the discussion unless you wanted to argue that white murderers were being discriminated against by the prison job assignment officer.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

Well, Hillary talked about being impressed by African-Americans' whimsy and inquisitive minds, and said that they preferred murderers who were settling scores, and Southern prison populations are overwhelmingly black, so I'm guessing they were almost all black.

Trae Young will be a bust. Book It!

What specific injustices do blacks suffer that whites do not then? If you think that the prison system has no racial bias.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Let's relegate it to this particular facet of prison life. It cannot be racial injustice if whites were subjected to exactly the same thing.

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

i could easily make the argument that every President post WWII "increased the likelihood" of large scale military conflict. That didn't begin with Bill Clinton and its false to claim that. U.S. policy became decidely interventionist Post WWII and the current conflict in the Middle East is a product of it. Didn't start with Bill Clinton and he did little to exacerbate it either.

When you say that the Clintons worked to establish global hegemony that too is false. Did they exceed the attempts made by Eisenhower, Truman, Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan? Didn't these list of Presidents proceed Clinton? How about GW. Didn't his efforts at establishing "global hegemony" far outweigh anything Bill Clinton ever did? He wasn't the crusading interventionist that you keep proclaiming him to be. Its simply false.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

We've encountered quite the slippery slope then, which I believe it a good thing for long term race relations.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

You are arguing against a phantom interlocutor, addressing points I haven't made.

I am specifically talking about the Clinton's efforts to establish and maintain the position of neoliberalism as the world's dominant ideology. This economic and political program created a social system whose only logical outcome is the implosion of the social world itself and mass violent conflict that may take any number of forms but should fundamentally be understood as global class war.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

Forces behind Globalist ideology predate Bill Clinton and his overall impact in this regard is minimal. It could be argued that he helped facilitate some of the acts that you see today but he was never the primary force behind it. It truly goes off the rails when you attempt to submerge militarism into the mix. Bill Clinton was not a warmonger.

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

Bill Clinton was president, but because he was not, in your opinion, the "primary driver" then he has barely any blame. Also, did the US military shrink under Clinton?

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Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

I'm sorry I've been busy, have we gotten to the part where these inmates weren't paid anything in exchange for room and board?

Trae Young will be a bust. Book It!

I'm sorry I've been busy, have we gotten to the part where these inmates weren't paid anything, and only received room and board?