Isn't that the responsible thing to do?

How would the fire officials know the death toll?

As far as I know, the correct way to figure out a death toll is to count dead bodies. Not "guess."

Fire officials have gone up through the building already. They are saying the toll will be 100-150 (trending closer to 100 though)

That's a better source than bureaucrats who haven't even gone into the building.

The building was unsurvivable so if you know someone was in the building and didn't get out, they had a 0% chance of survival.

I've read as recently as this morning that they haven't been able to fully sweep yet due to the condition of the building.

I've read as recently as this morning that they haven't been able to fully sweep yet due to the condition of the building.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Up to 79 dead, death toll climbing

Have a terrible night and die in MANY fires.

Have a terrible night and die in MANY fires.

People who died in the Grenfell fire might be alive today if regulators had required sprinkler systems. This does not play well for the Tories.

But before we start hanging them in effigy, there are a couple of things we should consider. The first is that, even if the regulation had passed, and required existing developers to retrofit sprinklers into older buildings, Grenfell Tower might not have gotten a sprinkler system before the fire occurred. Regulations are not implemented like instant coffee; they take time to formulate, and further time for businesses to comply. All the political will in the world cannot conjure up enough sprinkler systems, and sprinkler-system installers, to instantly transform a nation’s housing stock.

This, however, is only a quibble; even if Grenfell Tower could not have been saved, there are surely other buildings where fires will soon occur that would benefit from sprinklers. Must we wait for those deaths before we can say that his was a bad calculation?

Well, no. But we should wait until we can establish that it was actually a bad calculation.

Back to the case at hand: Maybe sprinkler systems should be required in multifamily dwellings. It’s completely possible that the former housing minister made the wrong call. But his comment indicates he was thinking about the question in the right way -- taking seriously the fact that safety regulations come at a cost, which may exceed their benefit. Such calculations have to be made, no matter how horrified the tut-tutting after the fact.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-06-16/beware-of-blaming-government-for-london-tower-fire


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https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-06-16/beware-of-blaming-government-for-london-tower-fire


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There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.

Megan McGrundle is an American.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.