True, but it's not like Muslims didn't have empires there before 1800. And nobody asked Muslims to seize control of formerly interesting countries, like Iran. The good times of the 70s had to end some time.

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There is no call for Jihad in the Bible. And Jesus was not a warlord attempting to conquer the Middle East with force. Slightly different precedent for violence in each, but agreed that the texts are crazy and can be twisted into nearly everything.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

justify, probably. i don't think those people are about believing; they are about anger or maintaining power or control.

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If you're suggesting that the religious texts are incidental here, I'm going to disagree. If you're saying that the British Empire fucked up the world and caused people to embrace those religious texts in a way they may not have otherwise, I'm inclined to agree. But I think your argument falls apart when you consider that Hindus, for example, who have been just as affected by British imperialism, aren't blowing themselves up on buses in Trafalgar Square.

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The Ottoman Empire dominated these regions for 500 years before WWI so centuries of oppression by the West is horse shit.

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Is the question colonialism or radicalism? If the former, Islam is hardly any more guilty than any Christian nation. And if the latter, then again I'd suggest the salience of radical thought can be just as attributed to the actions of the West as anything else. The current regime in Iran can be directly traced back to the US installing the Shah against a democratically elected leader who didn't want to provide oil at the US's asking price.

There were numerous times in the 20th century where a Communist state called for the elimination of religion. Millions of people died because of that.

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No, it was the Great Satan

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Or one who nationalized an oil industry that was built and maintained by the British. Depends which side of the lens you are on.

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These are completely unrelated thoughts. And as stated no one is denying that Communism cracked down on established religions. What has been said is that the state made the leader an object of worship- rather than the absence of religion.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

So why are there not Vietnamese suicide bombers, or Latin American terrorists flying planes into buildings. Your argument that American aggression is a singular-cause is absurd. Their belief in Islam is certainly a factor.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

What the Americans did was remarkably shitty, no doubt. But you'd think that one of the world's oldest cultures would come up with something better than the fun bunch that seized power.

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Are we merely concerned about terrrorism in the West specifically? Because there's most definitely been Hindu-inspired terrorism. Obviously if you weigh lives lost in Trafalgar Square higher than in the rest of the world you may can easily downplay it though. And of course, I'd suggest Western interference has remained a fair bit higher in the Middle East over the last half century than it has generally been in predominantly Hindu countries.

Um look up the early history of Christianity in the Roman Empire.Yah know the parts where they where fed to the lions and stuff.

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How many drone strikes and wars have we launched in the Middle East compared to Latin America and Vietnam in the last three decades?

There is a difference between cracking down, and having them eliminated from the state.

It was a stated goal of Russia, China and Albania to ELIMINATE, not CRACKDOWN on religion. And many people were killed because of it.

The institution of a social system without religion was the goal of Communism. Not the worship of the heads of state.

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Why limit this to the New Testament only? 1 in 4 American's believe the Bible is the literal word of God.

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Then why do only 1% abstain from fried shrimp?

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I think most of them understand the concept of the New Covenant though, don't you?

"An eye for an eye" has been superseded. "When the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush" has not.

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There's definitely a case to cast Middle East terrorism in the mid to late 20th century in an anti-colonial context, with most modern ME states being essentially created in the same century. This is standard among many historians of that period. As far as Latin America, I'm not well-read on that history, but I thought we did see violent outbreaks and radical movements/militia in that region between the 1950s - 1970s. Could be wrong. This ISIS stuff is a split, I'd argue. As others have mentioned, many of the colonial/imperial rationalizations don't apply (not that their justifications anyway for committing atrocities). Many propagandists of ISIS are sometimes well-educated westerners, or people who grow up in the ME but have professional degrees/occupations, for example. It's simple barbarism.

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Zeph doing work here.

Every time we do this thread the discourse devolves a bit more. It's not surprising that it's pretty much down to "kill all the Muslims everywhere"

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Your argument is that removing religion solves the problem. My point is that something will always stand in to fill the place of religion. You cannot undo human nature. War will continue as war is always about policy. Von Clausewitz is as correct today as he was 200 years ago when he wrote: "War is not merely a political act, but also a real political instrument, a continuation of political commerce, a carrying out of the same by other means."

You are deluding yourself if removing religion from the equation will change anything. Religion is just a recruiting too used today by those who are enacting that guerrilla war via terrorism. Other recruiting tools will be used in the absence of religion.

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Show me anywhere in history where attempted genocide has gone wrong, smart guy.

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That isn't totally true. The removal of religion has resulted in many great steps forward in society. Even today the lessening of the importance of religion in our country has given more rights to those who were denied them based on religious reasons. It's not as if some other thing took that over and continued to do it.

The simple answer is that religion in government is a mistake. Islam would not be anywhere close to the issue it is right now if we didn't have so many Islamic states.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You sure about that? I think a good argument can be made that government itself has become the new religion.

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Moderate Islam occurs in Indonesia and they have no axe to grind with America. You can't keep pushing the notion that it is a religious war because it isn't. If it were Muslims from all over the world would be shouting "Death to America". They aren't. It's been confined mostly to the Middle East and is geopolitical in nature.

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That's a lie.

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