A few? The Bulls traded LaMarcus Aldridge for Tyrus Thomas in the 2006 NBA Draft. They shit on their best first round draft pick since 2008. And now that Rose is brought up, they didn't have the guts to tell him he needed to play after he was medically cleared to play.

They have NO IDEA what they are doing. You're damn right I'm going to tell them to fuck off. Fandom does not include blind loyalty.

Blind loyalty is what enables the Bears to be a joke. I'm not sticking around for the Bulls to turn into that clusterfuck franchise.

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You're attaching your allegiance to a team that hasn't made the playoffs since Bush's first term and not too long ago had David Kahn as their GM.

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Every team has bad moves and picks. The Bulls are rebuilding since their latest attempt to win now failed miserably.

It's ironic that this is a move not too different than the Theo tank plan and yet you are quitting on your lifelong team because they traded away a guy who led them to an 8 seed.

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joined the dark side i see

Not really. It just seems like a lot of crying over a team that got blown up that wasn't very good anyways. I like Butler but it's not like being a Bulls fan next year would have been awesome if they hadn't done this.

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IMU hasn't even mentioned that the Bulls almost murdered his favorite player with a botched spinal surgery or something. Don't remember the exact details

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Been a Bulls fan since the inception ....even took a Magic Marker and wrote Bulls 5 on a sweatshirt to emulate my favorite player....they even made the playoffs.....then my favorite team the Motta coached Bulls that left it on the floor every damn night.Then the Jordan years my God to watch this guy play Then some lean years still a fan....then Rose and Thibs and another bunch that laid it all out...Rose gets hurt Thibs and Jimmy gone. Guess what until the current management is let go they can kiss my muthafuckin ass.Go T Wolves

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

glad to have you aboard Walt

Guess I'm definitely not a front runner then.

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Theo is the best exec in baseball. Paired with an owner committed to winning and committed to giving him tools to succeed.

The Bulls fired the best coach in basketball to keep the worst execs in basketball...and then that coach went on to be a damn good exec as well.

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Fair weather fans can always come up with excuses.

The fact is that the last two years have been bad but before that they were pretty good for a stretch of five years. The plan didn't work the past two years and now they are trying to rebuild.

So go ahead and jump ship but it makes you a fair weather fan.

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fuck off I was a Bulls fan longer than you have been alive...so stick that fair weather shit up your ass

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Sounds good!

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it didn't take long, we found the 1 thing Rick is going to beat into the ground all season long. get ready folks

OK, Mr. I'm a Saints Fan While Drew Brees Is Their QB Because Boo Jay Cutler!!

What is that?

I mean, my ultimate point is that it is dumb to give up being a fan of a team because they blew up a team that was an 8 seed.

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I was always a Bears fan. I was even rooting for them to finish the job Katrina started.

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Please Brick. Keep the tears coming.

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Are you seriously comparing GarPax to Theo Epstein?

Both teams seem to see the problems with the current makeup of the team and plan to rebuild by making moves that hurt the short term in hopes they pay off long term.

The larger point though is that such a move is not so egregious that you should jump ship and stop being a Bulls fan because of it.

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Rick is conflating things here. Most people are upset about the return the trade brought, and that it's another bad move in a several year long stretch of bad moves. They are upset because it essentially guarantees the front office a few more years of avoiding culpability for these mistakes. It's not simply that they made an 8th seed team worse.

Ultimately, I'm of course always going to remain a Bulls fan, but I certainly understand why more casual NBA fans like IMU would move their allegiance elsewhere as long as GarPax and Hoiberg are around.

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I'm not conflating it though. You can hate something or a string of things your favorite team does. You can basically ignore them because of it. I've done that with the White Sox though they seem to be figuring some things out at least in terms of the future.

This is not what this thread is about. If you become a Timberwolves fan you aren't a good fan. It's like the fans that followed Ditka as New Orleans fans(Regular Reader and W_Z). IMU is done with the Bulls. Let me also point out that IMU even said it wasn't a temporary move.

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FF tries to take a potshot at me.

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100% behind a rebuild with a competent front office in charge. And this is not that. I will say right now this does not result in a title with GarPax at the helm.

That wasn't a potshot. I thought you were a self described casual NBA fan.

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You are. You think this is about blowing up an 8 seed team. It is not.

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I guess I just don't get what was lost as a Bulls fan especially for a casual NBA fan like IMU. What did you expect over the next few years with the team?

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GarPax and Hoiberg have done a tremendous job of lowering my expectations, so I didn't expect them to compete in the next few years. I still don't. The only real difference is now I will be watching a 20-25 win team with no good players over the next few years instead of a 40-45 win team with one great player. I realize that's the same thing to the Championships Are All That Matters crowd. It's not the same thing to me.

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As a casual NBA fan, like IMU, it looks like the Bulls were simply chasing the really good Bulls teams they had the years prior to the last two with old free agent signings and one draft pick that worked out really well. The figured out after the season that they were far away from being where they needed to be and a rebuild was needed and Butler wasn't part of those plans. So, it isn't championships matter but it is "team being flawed matters".

It seems extreme to give up your Bulls fandom because they went a direction like this. You can hate the fact that they will be bad but to jump ship is a fair weather fan behavior.

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