Pretty good long form piece on the front page of ESPN now:



Crazy cover-up prior to this to protect a D-3 football star. http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/ ... d-40-hours

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

yea i just read that....brutal

I don't know how you can read that and not see the obvious racism against that kid.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

I hope the asshole football player that got these 2 guys fucked up like this gets shanked.

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Hypothetical racism or real racism?

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I was hoping this was about Jay Cutler.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Those girls were nasty. Though we've all been there.

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"Smiles with Nostrils"

"...no Hmong, go find some blacks"

real racism without a doubt.


Black guys torture white guy they knew wasn't involved.

By today's definitions of racism that is racism/hate crime 101.

How come the usual board race card players aren't up in arms about this one?

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Wow. Sick. I would agree it's a hate crime. They didn't even have a purpose for the guy... they just got off on the torture.

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Because that group of assholes got convicted to nice long prison sentences?

Unlike some here who always line up to defend MANY.

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Amazing. By default any vicious crime like that has to involve hate, but I don't see it as a racial attack. These guys were just intent on extracting revenge and getting anyone that lived in that apartment. If the innocent guy had been Asian or black, they would have done the same thing.

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Agreed.

That was a point SOME were trying to make in yesterday's thread.

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The guy orchestrating the attack was Hispanic. It was essentially his anger which got the ball rolling. Would that qualify as hate or racial?

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This had more to do with the guy being a football player than it had to do with to do with him being white. Street code justice 101. "If we can't get you we get your people". I think that's what happened here.

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It's best to always assume racism interactions between people I have learned.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

No.

The impetus for the hate was his friend getting rolled in a drug deal, not a general dislike for race.

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Weird that they graphically described the beatings and then added, oh, they were also sexually assaulted

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I agree. I think they were looking for football players not white guys. Could be wrong though.

They should have just targeted the middle man for retribution. I wonder if the Rivera dude had spoken with his cousin about the botched drug deal. If he had then it would have been apparent that the Smith dude was in on it. Even if he wasn't they would not have been wrong to assume that he was.

I know a bunch of guys that have pulled this same stunt.

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Seems like a quick way to get a heavy jail sentence. In this particular case time was of the essence but the crime is so easily traced and will be treated so harshly. Rent a cops broke the case within 24 hours.

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Yes, I'm a little upset they left out exactly how they were sexually assaulted.

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I hope these two kids make a boatload off the movie that's certain to be made from this.

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The story seems to be angling at a lawsuit against the school, which does seem to have culpability. Imagine your dorm being a crime scene while you were away at Thanksgiving only to be scrubbed clean and put in order so you wouldn't know anything before you got back.

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Both....they'll get a movie and they'd likely win a lawsuit.

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You hang out in interesting circles.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Depends on what you mean by "hang" and "interesting".

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Robberies are very common at the lower levels of drug dealing. Especially when you are dealing in quantities above a pound. It's not uncommon to be robbed by folks working for the people that sold to you in the first place. It's a scam learned from the mafia.

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Robberies are common at the higher end of drug deals too.

I think that they targeted those two guys because they wanted to create the perception that theyd avenged without actually avenging.They probably surmised that the original robbers rock a certain way and thus they didn't want any part of them. By targeting football players instead they could gain some street cred without actually having to go to "war". If they actually wanted to get the correct guys they would have sought out the middle man. It wouldn't have been difficult since the cousin knew him.

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