I think JORR needs to move to the suburbs. Lots of safe places to ride your bike there and there are even trees! You won't miss seeing a Walgreens every 5 minutes, stoplights, and condos!

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Giant truck is for work. SUV was because I needed something big enough to get three car seats across back. Although now the SUV isn't so giant but that third kid, while a blessing, brought many an unforeseen travel complication.

I live in the sticks. Bikes rank somewhere behind slow moving combines and somewhere ahead of random livestock on road in my annoyance factor.

Grown men shouldn't ride a bicycle

It's something you don't need. Families used to have 6-10 kids and got by without a fucking Hummer. They make driving difficult for everyone else.

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If more of them did there would be less heart attacks. Maybe mandatory bikes should be part of the healthcare bill.

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You also don't "need" to be riding a bike in the middle of the road with a double yellow line.

You say you want your three fucking feet, but then there are other laws and courteous acts that cyclists flat out ignore. If the guy in the video was riding his bike closer to the shoulder of the road, he likely would not have gotten hit.

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I don't think so. You're expressing road rage and you're not even driving.

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Yes, whether it is the driver's fault or not, the driver left the scene and that's probably a felony.

Had he stayed, the video probably helps him avoid a ticket/fault as the cyclist was not riding in a safe manner.

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The average motorist is far from courteous.

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Out of curiosity. What is your definition of s huge SUV. I'd say unless you go into Suburban or Expedition sized vehicles not much made these days are as big as the Oldsmobile wagon my folks had in early 80's. Hell, you could fit 4 kids across the bench in the middle seat on those and you surely can't do that in my old x5.

Oh, and I'm all for sharing the road with bikes and even have a road bike.

That's a pretty big stretch. For those times you are talking about kids weren't even in car seats.

Ironically though, when you go to a car museum and look at how big some of those cars were, they were as big as the biggest SUV's being sold today. They just were shorter.

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No. A lot of you don't seem to know the rules of the road. I'm really shocked that Law and Order Rick so blithely dismisses them because he feels they inconvience him. I'll remember to bring that up the next time the board druggies feel inconvienced by the puritanism of Rick and the U.S. Congress.

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If I'm expressing road rage then you have a victim complex. What have I said that conveys anger?

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See bold text.

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How long until JORR is tweeting about Lying Rick and FAKE NEWS?

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I am not talking about the average motorist, so stop bringing that up. I am talking about cyclists who either ignore or think they don't have to follow the rules of the road.

Earlier in this thread you said that a bike is a legal road vehicle. I have seen MANY cyclists blow right thru stop signs, red lights, and break other basic traffic laws. In the video Tad posted, cyclists are breaking the law.

But, share the road, right?

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It also would be hard to argue it was necessary to be that close to the middle of the road especially on a curve like that. The road was in good condition and his riding partner was safely using that part of the road without issue.

Can someone at the next board outing provide JORR with the rules of the road? He seems to have a poor understanding of his duties as a cyclist.

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Cyclists annoy me when I'm driving, too. But calling out cyclists for not "sharing the road" is bogus. Cyclists and motorists are forced into this hateful relationship by motorists. Motorists insist on having 2 lanes each way with street parking on both sides, right turn lanes, etc etc etc. However, when the road is "shared" by designating a bike lane the motorists begin screaming bloody murder. How dare a bureaucrat take a precious lane of asphalt away from car use?!

i blame sidewalk laws that prevent cyclists from using it. i've had more problems with suburban cyclists than city cyclists. seems like they're in more danger, anyway. suburban cyclists are just, on average, complete tools. motorists are the worst though, but you can't always see who they are.

The proliferation of SUVs is based on fashion rather than on any practical necessity.

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Once again, most SUV's are equal to or smaller than most cars that existed in previous decades. They are somewhat taller though. They also look bigger because in previous decades there weren't the small little go kart type cars all over the road.

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I think you bolded the wrong sentence. Bikes are allowed- even encouraged- on the Natchez Trace. Ogie seems to be suggesting that a motorist can drive full speed around a blind corner and has a right to slam into whatever happens to be on the other side.

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SUVs are wider and they make it more difficult to see. Why are you inconveniencing me with an SUV when I am trying to get to work?

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Yeah I have suburban cyclists in mind mainly because traffic moves faster in the suburbs. Sharing the road makes no sense - it'd be like airplanes having to accommodate hot air balloon traffic if they ever manage to fly that high without suffocating the passengers. They just don't belong in the same space, much like cars and bikes.

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No one is saying they weren't allowed. It was that the bikes are required to be single file and to be over to the right unless needed.

This is not correct though. I'll use two personal examples. We have a Chevy Equinox. It is listed as 73 inches wide. The Delta 88 my parents had as a kid is listed as 76.8 inches wide. This is incredibly common on all but the most extreme SUV's many of which are not even made now. SUV's have been a more logical replacement for the huge sedans that used to exist that actually provide more functionality with less width and length.

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I could sit at the corner of Albany and Waveland or Lunt and Sacramento or name any side street intersection on the North side and watch car after car blow through the stop signs.

And if I blow a stop on my bike the chances of me killing a guy driving a Ford Atrocity or a Chevy Enormity are remote.

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Then what the fuck is your point?



You can take my SUV when you can pry the steering wheel from my cold dead hands.

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The giant station wagons of late 70's and 80's are all of .7 inches more narrow than a suburban. And I'd argue the Buick Enclave and chevy whatever are significantly smaller and are more just an evolution of those wagons than of The truck suv's like the early bronco's and Cherokee's.

Now, it's stupid as hell to see a single person driving an Escalade as a daily driver but whatever.

Yeah but the very real possibility of those cars taking out the at-fault biker is what we're talking about.

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The cyclist was improperly riding. This probably would have cleared the driver had he not left especially with seemingly no injury.

No doubt. They are superior to the huge sedans of previous generations. Looks like you agree.

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