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Were you not of the belief that the Bears needed to draft a QB in the first round with a first round grade? Also, opining that outside of the very top of the first round they were unlikely to be successful?
That is certainly a lot closer.

As for Cutler, let me make it clear I don't even think he was wrong to not return to the game. A lot of quarterbacks play through injuries and sometimes it is a career threatening mistake like it was for RGIII. I just took exception to Frank thinking that no player would have played through it when many quarterbacks have played through worse. Calling it a tear, regardless of technicalities, is also making it seem worse than it was.

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I pretty much only mention Cutler when people like Frank and Beardown try and rewrite his history.
I didn't rewrite a damn thing.
Sure you did. You blamed the Bears for not ruling him out immediately when it isn't an injury that you rule someone out for immediately. If he thought he could play he would have been right back in there. You also made it seem like no other quarterback would have played when many other quarterbacks have played through worse.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
You blamed the Bears for not ruling him out immediately
Yep. Had they done this, the whole issue would have never happened.

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it isn't an injury that you rule someone out for immediately.
I didn't realize you were a doctor or trainer, and were there to examine him during the game. Talk about re-writing history...

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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You blamed the Bears for not ruling him out immediately
Yep. Had they done this, the whole issue would have never happened.

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it isn't an injury that you rule someone out for immediately.
I didn't realize you were a doctor or trainer, and were there to examine him during the game. Talk about re-writing history...
:lol: The doctors and trainers DIDN'T rule him out immediately! That's the point!

You are the one who wanted them to go against what the doctors and trainers said!

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The doctors and trainers DIDN'T rule him out immediately! That's the point!
#FakeNews.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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The doctors and trainers DIDN'T rule him out immediately! That's the point!
#FakeNews.

:lol: Are you saying Cutler was ruled out immediately in that game?

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You tell me, Doctor.
Once again, I must point out that you are the one advocating that the doctors were wrong to not immediately rule him out, and yet you are continuing down the path of thinking I'm the one questioning the actual doctors who saw him, when you literally are doing the exact thing you are trying to dig at me about.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Were you not of the belief that the Bears needed to draft a QB in the first round with a first round grade? Also, opining that outside of the very top of the first round they were unlikely to be successful?
That is certainly a lot closer.

As for Cutler, let me make it clear I don't even think he was wrong to not return to the game. A lot of quarterbacks play through injuries and sometimes it is a career threatening mistake like it was for RGIII. I just took exception to Frank thinking that no player would have played through it when many quarterbacks have played through worse. Calling it a tear, regardless of technicalities, is also making it seem worse than it was.


:lol: :lol:

That is what an ACTUAL DR. called it.

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Seacrest wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Were you not of the belief that the Bears needed to draft a QB in the first round with a first round grade? Also, opining that outside of the very top of the first round they were unlikely to be successful?
That is certainly a lot closer.

As for Cutler, let me make it clear I don't even think he was wrong to not return to the game. A lot of quarterbacks play through injuries and sometimes it is a career threatening mistake like it was for RGIII. I just took exception to Frank thinking that no player would have played through it when many quarterbacks have played through worse. Calling it a tear, regardless of technicalities, is also making it seem worse than it was.


:lol: :lol:

That is what an ACTUAL DR. called it.
Oh, an unconfirmed report from the Bears!

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Were you not of the belief that the Bears needed to draft a QB in the first round with a first round grade? Also, opining that outside of the very top of the first round they were unlikely to be successful?
That is certainly a lot closer.

As for Cutler, let me make it clear I don't even think he was wrong to not return to the game. A lot of quarterbacks play through injuries and sometimes it is a career threatening mistake like it was for RGIII. I just took exception to Frank thinking that no player would have played through it when many quarterbacks have played through worse. Calling it a tear, regardless of technicalities, is also making it seem worse than it was.


:lol: :lol:

That is what an ACTUAL DR. called it.
Oh, an unconfirmed report from the Bears!


Well...the DR. does work for the Bears.

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he was a tough player and would have played through that if he could.

With ya on the first part. Second I'm not sure

He was having a horrible game, maybe the knee was an easy out for him.


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http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jay- ... hip-012411

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/1/24/ ... y-torn-mcl

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-bear ... -torn-mcl/

http://www.denverpost.com/2011/01/24/fy ... -torn-mcl/


You can apologize anytime, Rick.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jay-cutler-injury-torn-mcl-report-chicago-bears-nfc-championship-012411

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/1/24/ ... y-torn-mcl

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-bear ... -torn-mcl/

http://www.denverpost.com/2011/01/24/fy ... -torn-mcl/


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jay-cutler-injury-torn-mcl-report-chicago-bears-nfc-championship-012411

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/1/24/ ... y-torn-mcl

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-bear ... -torn-mcl/

http://www.denverpost.com/2011/01/24/fy ... -torn-mcl/


You can apologize anytime, Rick.
:lol: Nice subject change. Ok, it was a tear because all sprains can be called tears. I profusely apologize. Now, will you apologize for wanting the doctors to pull him immediately Dr. Frank?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jay-cutler-injury-torn-mcl-report-chicago-bears-nfc-championship-012411

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/1/24/ ... y-torn-mcl

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-bear ... -torn-mcl/

http://www.denverpost.com/2011/01/24/fy ... -torn-mcl/


You can apologize anytime, Rick.
:lol: Nice subject change. Ok, it was a tear because all sprains can be called tears. I profusely apologize. Now, will you apologize for wanting the doctors to pull him immediately Dr. Frank?


If Cutler were a women, you would say people were sexist for criticizing him for not playing.
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jay-cutler-injury-torn-mcl-report-chicago-bears-nfc-championship-012411

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/1/24/ ... y-torn-mcl

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-bear ... -torn-mcl/

http://www.denverpost.com/2011/01/24/fy ... -torn-mcl/


You can apologize anytime, Rick.
:lol: Nice subject change. Ok, it was a tear because all sprains can be called tears. I profusely apologize. Now, will you apologize for wanting the doctors to pull him immediately Dr. Frank?
Hey Dr. Frank, I want to make sure you didn't miss my apology.

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The point is moot.

Does anyone here really think Cutler would have lasted one season under Ditka?

This was during the era when they still let QBs get hit, like what Wilber Marshall did to that poor QB from Detroit.
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