It is currently Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:51 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 60 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:20 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:22 pm
Posts: 24524
pizza_Place: It's gone
I don't know anything about the AL and not much about the cubs minor league system.

Was this trade good for the Cubs or bad? Hate seeing so many young prospects going for one guy but is this Q guy worth it?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:21 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:24 am
Posts: 38635
Location: RST Video
pizza_Place: Bill's Pizza - Mundelein
Great trade for the Sox

_________________
Darkside wrote:
Our hotel smelled like dead hooker vagina (before you ask I had gotten a detailed description from beardown)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:21 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:08 pm
Posts: 3717
Location: East of Eden
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
HawaiiYou wrote:
I don't know anything about the AL and not much about the cubs minor league system.

Was this trade good for the Cubs or bad? Hate seeing so many young prospects going for one guy but is this Q guy worth it?

who else they got to start games?

_________________
rogers park bryan wrote:
This registered sex offender I regularly converse with on the internet just said something really stupid


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:21 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:05 am
Posts: 25181
Location: Cultural Mecca
pizza_Place: Pequod's / Barnaby's
The 2017 Cubs won the trade and the 2019 White Sox won the trade.

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:29 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
Not if the 2017 Cubs miss the playoffs.

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:41 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:28 am
Posts: 4034
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Not if the 2017 Cubs miss the playoffs.


Was not aware that Quintana is a FA after 2017. Thanks for the information.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:04 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
Was not aware that Quitana's 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, or 2023 affected the 2017 Cubs.

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:05 am
Posts: 25181
Location: Cultural Mecca
pizza_Place: Pequod's / Barnaby's
The 2017 Cubs still win the trade as Quintana gives the Cubs a better chance at winning the division than Jimenez and Cease did. If the Cubs do not make the playoffs, this trade still helped them put their best foot forward, and one could argue 2019 Quintana could help the 2019 Cubs more than 2019 Jimenez (22 yo then) and Cease (still raw for a few more seasons).

Look, the White Sox got a ton of value back, and Quintana is a really good starter that helps the Cubs.

I'm not sure why we're arguing about who has won the trade at the moment? Quintana to the Cubs has been discussed for over a year now because it makes a ton of sense for both teams.

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.


Last edited by IMU on Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:08 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:07 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:08 pm
Posts: 3717
Location: East of Eden
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
Well....I remember hearing that the White Sox won the off-season in 2015. It didn't help them much. So we'll see.

I will pull for Q the rest of this year (unless he pitches in the CUP games).

_________________
rogers park bryan wrote:
This registered sex offender I regularly converse with on the internet just said something really stupid


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:57 pm
Posts: 91933
Location: To the left of my post
Don't underestimate the impact this has on the BP Cup.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:10 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:08 pm
Posts: 3717
Location: East of Eden
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Don't underestimate the impact this has on the BP Cup.

All I know is that the Cup stays home! I hope Q gets shelled.

After that, go ahead and pitch well.

_________________
rogers park bryan wrote:
This registered sex offender I regularly converse with on the internet just said something really stupid


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:12 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu May 04, 2017 10:54 am
Posts: 260
pizza_Place: V & N
HawaiiYou wrote:
I don't know anything about the AL and not much about the cubs minor league system.



Ugh. Bad baseball fan. Typical cub fan.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82153
Good trade.

Quintana changes the entire complexion of the Cubs biggest problem area. Douches will deny it but he is the Cub #1 pitcher today. He immediately allows the Cubs to be at a pitching advantage in every spot against playoff opponents (except Kershaw). I also LOVE AL pitchers coming to the NL for short term success.

Sox have the makings of a powerhouse OF if these suspects become prospects.

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 22704
pizza_Place: A few...
The Cub players now need to shut the hell up about bringing someone in. The offense better wake the hell up.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:17 pm
Posts: 8010
pizza_Place: Rosati's
Good trade for both teams, so stop all the whining.

_________________
Not a mult.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:20 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79470
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
My NL guy just texted me that the Cubs had soured on Jimenez.

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:55 am
Posts: 6548
pizza_Place: Giordano's
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
My NL guy just texted me that the Cubs had soured on Jimenez.


Why?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:23 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 22704
pizza_Place: A few...
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
My NL guy just texted me that the Cubs had soured on Jimenez.


Wow. That is surprising.

Also someone on the White Sox Reddit board had this trade last night. Said it was Q to the Cubs for 4 players.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:24 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:08 pm
Posts: 3717
Location: East of Eden
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
Peoria Matt wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
My NL guy just texted me that the Cubs had soured on Jimenez.


Wow. That is surprising.

Also someone on the White Sox Reddit board had this trade last night. Said it was Q to the Cubs for 4 players.

Yep, I saw that--the poster nailed it. Then Rosenthal tweeted (about the trade) and deleted his tweet (apparently).

_________________
rogers park bryan wrote:
This registered sex offender I regularly converse with on the internet just said something really stupid


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:25 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
Peoria Matt wrote:
The Cub players now need to shut the hell up about bringing someone in. The offense better wake the hell up.
Yep. And if the players had woken up by now, this sort of move would not have been necessary.

I wonder if Q will like the Pajamagram road trips :lol:

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:22 pm
Posts: 24524
pizza_Place: It's gone
thewatcher wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
I don't know anything about the AL and not much about the cubs minor league system.



Ugh. Bad baseball fan. Typical cub fan.



Why? I like to watch real baseball. not something close to softball. I think your version of 'typical cub fans' know only about the cubs and not the entire NL.

thewatcher = troublemaker


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72378
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
good dolphin wrote:
Good trade.

Quintana changes the entire complexion of the Cubs biggest problem area. Douches will deny it but he is the Cub #1 pitcher today. He immediately allows the Cubs to be at a pitching advantage in every spot against playoff opponents (except Kershaw). I also LOVE AL pitchers coming to the NL for short term success.

Sox have the makings of a powerhouse OF if these suspects become prospects.

I was waiting for someone to go that ridiculous route. Didn't think it would be you. Lester is their clear #1.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:30 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79470
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
Cashman wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
My NL guy just texted me that the Cubs had soured on Jimenez.


Why?



He didn't say. But he also said the Flete was a little known guy that he saw and liked in the offseason.

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:08 pm
Posts: 3717
Location: East of Eden
pizza_Place: Vito and Nick's
Peoria Matt wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
My NL guy just texted me that the Cubs had soured on Jimenez.


Wow. That is surprising.

Also someone on the White Sox Reddit board had this trade last night. Said it was Q to the Cubs for 4 players.

good ol' wetbutt23 (that was his reddit username).

_________________
rogers park bryan wrote:
This registered sex offender I regularly converse with on the internet just said something really stupid


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82153
FavreFan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Good trade.

Quintana changes the entire complexion of the Cubs biggest problem area. Douches will deny it but he is the Cub #1 pitcher today. He immediately allows the Cubs to be at a pitching advantage in every spot against playoff opponents (except Kershaw). I also LOVE AL pitchers coming to the NL for short term success.

Sox have the makings of a powerhouse OF if these suspects become prospects.

I was waiting for someone to go that ridiculous route. Didn't think it would be you. Lester is their clear #1.


See what I was saying, guys?

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:35 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82153
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Cashman wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
My NL guy just texted me that the Cubs had soured on Jimenez.


Why?



He didn't say. But he also said the Flete was a little known guy that he saw and liked in the offseason.


Post trade posturing.

The guy has been compared to Giancarlo Stanton.

Awesome! We got Giancarlo Stanton!

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:35 pm
Posts: 10781
Location: Parrish, FL
pizza_Place: 1. Peaquods 2. Aurelios
Good trade for both teams. I do think the cubs offense will wake up in the 2nd half. There's no waking up a starting pitching staff that got really old really fast. Assuming Hendricks is healthy in the 2nd half....the cubs have 3 legit starters which should be enough to make the playoffs. Plus....Q is cost controlled for the future.

FFS.....please don't try and argue Q is better than Jon Lester in 2017.

_________________
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
brick (/brik/) verb
1. block or enclose with a wall of bricks
2. Proper response would be to ask an endless series of follow ups until the person regrets having spoken to you in the first place.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:22 pm
Posts: 24524
pizza_Place: It's gone
Phil Rogers is saying this puts the Cubs as the top team again in the NL. And the brewers drove up the price the cubs had to pay in getting Q. Interesting to see what role the Brewers paid in all of this. Now let's see what the Brewers or even the Cards do.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
HawaiiYou wrote:
Phil Rogers is saying..

Let me stop ya right, there



This is the Dodgers or Nats year


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Good trade or not?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 22704
pizza_Place: A few...
rogers park bryan wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
Phil Rogers is saying..

Let me stop ya right, there



This is the Dodgers or Nats year


Yea....Phil is off his rocker on this one.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 60 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group