FWIW the intent was more to make fun of dumb Kobe fan logic in general, though I also one of the most glaring examples examples of that logic in action comes through in criticism of Lebron. I am a Jordan guy but at this point my frustration with Kobe stans nearly rivals my love of Jordan.

If we do want to turn this into a played out Lebron debate, his pass to Korver also didn't take place in an elimination game, so I guess that therefore makes it alright!

Kobe is clearly the 2nd best SG of all time and almost a carbon copy of Jordan.

Kobe is clearly the 2nd best SG of all time and almost a carbon copy of Jordan.

Your LeBron point will always be wrong UNLESS his team is winning in the series when it happens. As I said then he should take the shot in a similar situation every single time.

Cubic zirconia is clearly the 2nd best ring material of all time and almost a carbon copy of diamonds.

Cubic zirconia is clearly the 2nd best ring material of all time and almost a carbon copy of diamonds.

Yeah but they won't fetch you equal value on the market. Say Jordan and Kobe are both 24 right now and balling - they'd cost the same if you want to acquire one of them in a trade.

That is true, and then you would spend eternity defending the team who traded for Kobe instead of Jordan.

Yeah but they won't fetch you equal value on the market. Say Jordan and Kobe are both 24 right now and balling - they'd cost the same if you want to acquire one of them in a trade.

It wouldn't make a difference - the team trading for Kobe would likely have the same chance at success as they would had they traded for Jordan.

Yeah but they won't fetch you equal value on the market. Say Jordan and Kobe are both 24 right now and balling - they'd cost the same if you want to acquire one of them in a trade.

Yeah but they won't fetch you equal value on the market. Say Jordan and Kobe are both 24 right now and balling - they'd cost the same if you want to acquire one of them in a trade.

At age 24, Jordan was averaging more points a game than Kobe even did on the trash Lakers teams he played for after driving his own Batman out of LA. Bryant doesn't fetch close to market value against the more athletically explosive early Jordan.

I'm suggesting any team getting 24 year old Kobe is definitively going to be worse than if they got 24 year old MJ instead. I realize you think this is hindsight. Some of it obviously is, but it's still correct.

I'm suggesting any team getting 24 year old Kobe is definitively going to be worse than if they got 24 year old MJ instead. I realize you think this is hindsight. Some of it obviously is, but it's still correct.

I'm using it to I guess, but I still don't see how Kobe is going to be "definitively" less successful than Jordan. They're remarkably similar players, and that's no accident.