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 Post subject: Re: Trumpcare
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:24 am 
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From an article in the Trib today about a shooting victim:

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In his first 35 minutes at the hospital, Leyva had racked up $21,521 in charges, and by the time he was released three weeks later the bill totaled more than $157,000. For Johnson, who spent barely 24 hours at Mount Sinai, the hospital charges approached $27,000.


Does $1125/hr seem reasonable for emergency care?

How cheap should literally saving a life be?

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 Post subject: Re: Trumpcare
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:29 am 
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Killer V wrote:
From an article in the Trib today about a shooting victim:

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In his first 35 minutes at the hospital, Leyva had racked up $21,521 in charges, and by the time he was released three weeks later the bill totaled more than $157,000. For Johnson, who spent barely 24 hours at Mount Sinai, the hospital charges approached $27,000.


Does $1125/hr seem reasonable for emergency care?


I don't see any problems there.

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 Post subject: Re: Trumpcare
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:36 am 
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pittmike wrote:
Killer V wrote:
From an article in the Trib today about a shooting victim:

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In his first 35 minutes at the hospital, Leyva had racked up $21,521 in charges, and by the time he was released three weeks later the bill totaled more than $157,000. For Johnson, who spent barely 24 hours at Mount Sinai, the hospital charges approached $27,000.


Does $1125/hr seem reasonable for emergency care?


I don't see any problems there.

It's also not a price anyone would actually pay even without insurance. The costs are largely inflated because the government will only pay a low percentage of the bill as policy.

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 Post subject: Re: Trumpcare
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:59 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Killer V wrote:
From an article in the Trib today about a shooting victim:

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In his first 35 minutes at the hospital, Leyva had racked up $21,521 in charges, and by the time he was released three weeks later the bill totaled more than $157,000. For Johnson, who spent barely 24 hours at Mount Sinai, the hospital charges approached $27,000.


Does $1125/hr seem reasonable for emergency care?


I don't see any problems there.

It's also not a price anyone would actually pay even without insurance. The costs are largely inflated because the government will only pay a low percentage of the bill as policy.


You are correct. I assume you would have to adjust for costs of technology and inflation but have a look to the not too distant past. Prior to government intervention and the health insurance explosion how did people pay medical bills and how much more sane were the charges?

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 Post subject: Re: Trumpcare
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:19 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Killer V wrote:
From an article in the Trib today about a shooting victim:

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In his first 35 minutes at the hospital, Leyva had racked up $21,521 in charges, and by the time he was released three weeks later the bill totaled more than $157,000. For Johnson, who spent barely 24 hours at Mount Sinai, the hospital charges approached $27,000.


Does $1125/hr seem reasonable for emergency care?

How cheap should literally saving a life be?


Yes. Let's think in those terms so they can charge $100,000+/hr.

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 Post subject: Re: Trumpcare
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under that logic, the millennials preparing your food at mcdonald's should get $1000 an hour--after all, without sustenance, you'd die. Image
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 Post subject: Re: Trumpcare
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:41 pm 
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Killer V wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Killer V wrote:
From an article in the Trib today about a shooting victim:

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In his first 35 minutes at the hospital, Leyva had racked up $21,521 in charges, and by the time he was released three weeks later the bill totaled more than $157,000. For Johnson, who spent barely 24 hours at Mount Sinai, the hospital charges approached $27,000.


Does $1125/hr seem reasonable for emergency care?

How cheap should literally saving a life be?


Yes. Let's think in those terms so they can charge $100,000+/hr.
How cheap should it be to save a life? What was done? How much did they actually pay?

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