Kyrie Irving is one of the most offensively gifted players in the league and he was that before he ever played a second with LeBron James. It's one of the reasons James came back.

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He is tired of deferring to James. I get that part as it's hard with a guy that is that Ball dominant. They have won doing it that way though.

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If he gets traded to the Spurs Kawhi will teach him to become the player ltg thinks he already is. I hope it happens

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Or we'll get to see Pop throw him on the bench when ballhogs on offense and gets torched on defense.

No one has to teach him anything. On the Olympic team he was a star of stars. He also has a ring and was the guy that hit the shot to get the ring. Killed the MVP in the process. This guy is big time and the rest of the league knows it. He will definitely garner more in a trade than Jimmy Butler ever could.

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Doesn't mean shit. He's riding LBJ's coattails. When he's on his own he won't get past the second round unless he's got an all pro on his team. Kyrie will never be the best player on a championship team.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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After he hit the shot to win the ring he thanked LBJ for putting him on his back to get to that point.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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To be fair, it's very difficult to get past the second round without a second All NBA player. Not everyone can be Kawhi

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You don't know that for sure. It's funny how Towns and Wiggins are young when the win 31 games and Irving is dogshit when he wins 33. He was about the same age they are now and his roster was much shittier. In your eyes that doesn't matter because it's a guy you don't particularly like.

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He beat a team that only had one all NBA player on it also. Not exactly a great feat.

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He beat a team with three All NBA players in the Finals

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I didn't say he was dogshit. Honestly I'm not impressed, that's true, but I really don't think he'll win because he's a PG and he's not dynamic enough to overcome being a PG. That's why he's insane to want to branch out - he'll never get to where he's at right now.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

John Wall still won't sign the extension Washington offered. Kyrie for Wall?

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Not by himself he didn't and it's apparent that no Duncan equates to no rings or Finals appearances.

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There is a chance he won't. This may be the most success teamwise that he will ever experience. You put solid talent around him and be can get you 50 wins. He never lobbied for LeBron James.

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Irving wants to be more of a focal point...the Earth is flat......one stupid fuck

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

It's apparent?

They were up by 20 when he got hurt for the playoffs. And that's in his only attempt so far post Duncan. Don't be a clown

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He didn't but he should be thankful. Irving is just another all star PG with no accomplishments without James.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Gilbert doesn't have the balls but the smart play here would be to trade LeBron and build around Kyrie and the return from the LeBron trade

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This sounds nice in theory but Lebron's no trade clause makes it practically impossible.

Kyrie wants to go to contender......uh you're with Cleveland 2 teams the Knicks and T-Wolves..no wonder LTG loves him He wants to be Westbrook go and do it you are an idiot

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Cleveland is done after this season whether LeBron leaves or not. Lot of miles on LeBron.

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If LeBron James played with the talent endured by Irving his first 3 years he wouldn't have any accomplishments either. I can say with absolute certainty that the vast majority of people posting about his lack of success would not be able to name 2 starters from those teams without doing a Google search. Wouldn't know the second leading scorer either yet somehow someway failure to win was on him. Winning 33 games with that collection of bums was nothing short of a miracle.

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Lebron reportedly working "behind the scenes" to trade Irving to Suns for Josh Jackson.

I hope he goes to Phoenix. I think it's the best situation for him actually. From what I've been reading they didn't want to give up Jackson and I wonder if James would want to play with a rookie.

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Guess the offers haven't been pouring in for Nerlens Noel. Now his agent is whining and Noel has taken to social media to show the world that he has a jump shot.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... LmrWU7RkQw

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What happens with Bledsoe?

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Not much to see here. This would be a big deal if he was a UFA. He's not.

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Yes it is he stinks. Other restricted free agents signed contracts. There isn't a market for him. He will play in the NBA but the easiest thing to do is let someone sign him and allow Dallas to match. In the good old days teams would do that simply to fuck up the matching team's salary cap. Noel isn't even worth the trouble of doing that.

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I think he'd go in that trade too. He has been on the block for awhile supposedly. Backcourt of Booker and Irving would be a nightmare offensively. Phoenix also has young developing bigs. If somehow Cleveland includes Love then this would really be a blockbuster deal.

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