Do you crop Jordan's hand out when you use this image?

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He also played with a championship contending roster before he was 25 too. How could he not achieve greatness with the likes of Alonzo Gee and Tyler Zeller on his team is truly one of life's mysteries. That team will go down as one of the greatest of the great teams that have never won anything.

You have Sheed and his Blazer teams
Webber and his Sacramento teams
Drexler and his Portland teams of the early 90's
Barkley and his Phoenix teams
Stockton Malone and Utah


And now last but not least Irving and his Cleveland teams from 3 years ago.

Which of the aforementioned teams was the biggest disappointment?

There will be 30 for 30's produced which seek to answer the question as to why that talent Laden Cleveland team from 3 seasons ago failed to accomplish anything. Such high hopes.

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I'm not sure if I have ever used that image before. It's interesting that you think Charles Barkley and John Stockton don't have legacies though. And I'm afraid to even ask your opinion of Anthony Davis

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I don't want to go another 9 or whatever rounds on this one. I'm still not sure why you're not a Milwaukee Bucks fan with all your Favre evangelism. Maybe that's why you don't recognize this MJ pic.

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I'm no Benjamin Banneker but according to my math LeBron James would have had to have fathered Kyrie Irving before the age of 25

https://theundefeated.com/features/clev ... ron-james/

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2726 ... =editorial



You want to be on James' level and the best accolade you've got is that you're a one-time All NBA third teamer?



GTFO with that weak shit.

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Agreed. He's fucking insane. LeBron is a once in a generation talent and he's just an all star. Stay in your lane Kyrie.

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Who hit the big shot in Game 7?

Kyrie hit the shot, Love played the d, LeBron just missed a dunk (of course he missed it)


Kyrie is not on LeBron's level, but he is certainly above being treated like a little brother.

We oughta make a rap song about someone joining a thread he took great measures to shit on just a couple weeks ago.

Punk

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Now the thread is decent.

He's like 10 years younger. Of course he's going to be a little brother. He's not on LeBron's level and never will be.

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There is a tad bit of truth in what he is saying. He was a two time all star before LeBron rejoined the team. He isn't on Lebron's level as a player and will probably never eclipse him. That doesn't mean that LeBron James should constantly shit on him or other teammates either.

His constant calls for help are annoying as hell. The Cavaliers have constructed their team in the way that he wanted it constructed for 3 years now. If it doesn't work then it's on him.

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It has worked and worked well. In fact that only reason Kyrie Irving is as marketable as he is right now is because of LBJ. Without LBJ he'd be just another talented guy who plays on bad teams. Kyrie Irving should humble himself before the King

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I took the lil bro thing as innocuous. LBJ's got age, wisdom, and experience. That makes him the elder. Does Kyrie think he has that now? He's even more delusional than I thought.

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Lebron's a bitch. He's lucky he's had alphas like Wade and Kyrie to take the big shots for him down the stretch.

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Kyrie is being a little bitch. LeBron has earned the right to be as demanding as he wants to be. Not long ago Kyrie was in awe of playing the Bulls on national television. He needs to have some fucking respect and stop being a brat.

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Flat Earth!

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He doesn't want to feel like Lebron's bitch anymore. LeBron James is a glorified ringchaser and has been that for 7 years now. When they win it's about his legacy and when they lose he needs better teammates. He is the almighty arbiter of who wins and loses basketball games. Irving never signed up for this either. He wants out and wishes to blaze his own trail. May not work and probably will be a career killer in terms of public opinion but he is willing to do it obviously.

LeBron James walks out the door next year and Cleveland is stuck with a worse team than any of the ones that he'd be traded to. That also has to be considered.

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Yep

Also Wade and Irving didnt have to run to a super team

Irvingis the longer tenured employee and LeBron should respect that

Kyrie was Ballin for Cleveland while LeBron was having his "college experience" in Miami

If LeBron James cared about Cleveland then he would do what Paul George and others previously have done. Tell them that he plans to leave at the end of the year and wave his no trade clause. That will allow them to trade him and acquire assets for the future. Instead he has held them hostage since he has been back. Either make the moves that I want made or I will leave you high and dry. LeBron supporters are cool with that because he is "LeBron James damnit". That has meant overpaying players, firing the coach he didn't want and hiring the guy that he did want. Now he is tweeting about a guy "riding his wave" and people wonder why said guy wants out. This has been the dudes attitude all along and it's the same shit that Riley had tired of also.

If LeBron is the helluva stud that everyone keeps claiming that he is then it shouldn't matter who he plays with. Cleveland should make the best trade that they can make alas Garpax with Butler, and get rid of the malcontent.

Since having LeBron ensures your team of a trip to the Finals then it really shouldn't matter who his teammates are should it?

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LeBron doesn't owe Cleveland shit. He's brought them a championship and made the city a billion dollars.

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Cleveland doesn't owe him shit either. He is a basketball player not god. For what's it is worth Irving hit the biggest shot of the series not James.

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I'd say LeBron owes Kyrie more than the other way around. If Kyrie doesn't play at a superhuman level in that series AND hit the game winning three, Lebron is 0-3 in his return to Cleveland and has way more pressure to stay there after this season.

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Exactly. Veganfan and Nas need some perspective. He's not even the best basketball player of our lifetimes either.

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They owe him some fucking respect and gratitude. They're no longer losers because of him.

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C'mon. They're still losers. Joakim Noah said it best

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They were on they're way to being a good team without him. Probably not champions but playoff team for sure. Tim Duncan won five championships and for my money was a better player than James and has never pulled the shit that he does. You never heard about him demanding coaches and players be traded.

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They were a perennial lottery team and Kyrie couldn't carry his luggage let alone the team. Tim Duncan flirted with Orlando. He didn't have the power LeBron had either. LeBron has been the best player in the world for damn near a decade and a proven winner.

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