Nazis are the exception the rule when it come to free speech. It's ok to walk up to any Nazi you see and beat the shit out of him or her no questions asked IMO.


Nomination rejected.

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Spoken like a good liberal

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

lol I'm far from a liberal. Just a Nazi hating Jew. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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I don't know. I don't believe either neo-Nazis or "Antifa" are large groups. I certainly don't think they're going to be fighting a civil war. This shit is probably a canary in a coalmine though.

I will say that ascribing some sort of nobility to a bunch of dopes in black masks because they're cracking heads of scumbags with Nazi flags in between running speakers and professors off campus is misguided at best and probably better characterized as downright evil.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Didn't they have marches where people chanted, "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like Bacon," and "What do we want? Dead cops? When do we want them? Now?"

They haven't exactly been angels. ANTIFA are just extreme idiots, plain and simple. Nazis are Nazis - absurd idiots.

I think you can say that ANTIFA and Nazis are bad. Don't need to choose sides - they're both crazy.

I think you can say that BLM needs to figure out better messaging and better control of their national message if they want to be considered peaceful.

I don't advocate violence but if there'd been an activist anti fascist movement in Germany i'd venture to say that there would never have been a Holocaust.

It is difficult for people impacted by white supremacy to simply turn the other cheek. History has shown that turning the other cheek can have disastrous consequences.

Violence isn't the answer either. They should be allowed to express their views like anyone else.

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I think FF is mistaken about BLM. Part of their platform is the tired old "from the river to the sea" crap. Not sure how that's possible without violence.

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Two wrongs don't make a right, you guys.

My personal opinion is that because of the holocaust, Nazi's have permanently lost the right to express their views, march, meet or do anything that promotes their beliefs. You lose those rights when you attempt mass genocide.

I honestly think it should be a law that its always ok to physically attack Nazis.

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This is peachy

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

True, but..

There was an anti-nazi movement.It got crushed because the Nazis where not playing games. If you opposed them and did not quit the country ,you got sent to a camp. Not all the people who died in the Camps where Jews.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

I could take a similar view towards The KKK or White Supremacist but it wouldn't solve anything. I understand what you're saying though.

What I would debate them on would be issues such as free speech. They are fighting for their right to have it in this particular instance but if they achieved their aims free speech would be stifled. Talk about irony.

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It was stifled because they'd been empowered. There wasn't a viable anti Nazi movement before Hitler rose to power.

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I agree with you both on a personal level, but we can't really put societal imprimatur on it. I'd compare it to Ellie Nesler. I'm not sad she did what she did, but a civil society can't say it's okay.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Yes there was.Communists,The Christian Democrat Party. The Nazis never had more than a 34% membership in the Bundestag. Up until and even after the Nazis come to power there was demonstrations and even street brawling between parties,until De Frankfruter consolidated control.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Hitler could have been stopped by legal means. If memory serves correctly he wasn't a German citizen at the time he was attempting to take over Germany. I can check but he didn't become a German citizen until after he'd assumed power. They had to waive that stipulation in order for him to take over. It's been awhile but the military laid down every step of the way. There were ways to thwart him and they never did.

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Sort of? That is what they identify as. These are the same assholes who go and attempt to destroy whatever city NATO goes to for their summits.

Correct,but you have to look at the German mindset at the time. They where forced to accept total blame for the war,paid crushing reparations, add to the fact that you add in the failure of the German Economy in the great Depression,the French marching into the Rhineland and carting off a shit tonne of stuff instead of working with them. There is street violence everywhere . Rampaging unemployment.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

I'll never deny that the conditions weren't in place for him to do what he did. He never received a majority of the vote but the resistance to him particularly once empowered was minimal. The Holocaust was made possible by rampant Anti Semitism which existed inside the country. It just wasn't Germany either. Anti Semitism was running rampant throughout the world during the 30's.

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"are you a nazi"--Trig

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Obama's Legacy is Trump.
And dead cops.

"One guy lays the pipe, the other guy smokes it"--Clint Eastwood

There was; the communists. As I remember it most of their leaders were Jews and were under Nazi attack from the beginning.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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Without ANTIFA(1940's) we lose WW2. True story.

It's crazy how you can just name something a certain way and Americans just buy it face it value.

I find that thought difficult to read coming from a lawyer.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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It's crazy how I push a button on my phone, and you have to take me wherever I tell you, at face value.

Wat

not as shocking as me finding out a lawyer has difficulty reading.

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But not surprising though?

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A Political Guide to Chelsea Manning: ‘Tradition’ Is Fascist, ‘Imagine a World’ Without Borders, Police, Prisons

Obama's girlfriend is AntiFa.
“The fascists and police/military/intel state are the ones who hurt people every day… we can do better,” posted Manning on Twitter, Sunday. “They wear body armor, carry shields, throw tear gas, throw flashbangs, and shoot people… stop the police!!” she continued in response to reports of leftist counter-protesters attacking police with bottles of urine in Boston.



http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/08/2 ... e-prisons/


"what's Antifa"--Trig
"all the best people"--Frank


#Bullshit
#Kofi

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Obama's Legacy is Trump.
And dead cops.

"One guy lays the pipe, the other guy smokes it"--Clint Eastwood