Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
long time guy wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Perhaps teachers are punching bags as the last 4 decades have seen a 300-400% increase in educational spending per pupil (that's when adjusted for inflation) with at best no growth in performance metrics and at worse a steady decline.
Perhaps some of us who have grown up in over the last few decades and have been through public schools have seen situations where incompetent teachers are protected by public sector unions and their pay is based upon seniority rather than real results.
I say this as the child of a teacher. (one who actually gives a damn though)
Public education in this country is broken and the lack of accountability amongst employees who are members of unions is a big piece of the puzzle. I can pull out the OECD stats if you want. (they really paint a dark picture)
This is an incredibly ignorant statement.
as usual, I have the facts on my side.
Also as usual, you have absolutely nothing to back up your assertion.
Would you also like me to pull up the chart of per pupil spending among OECD nations vs. their test scores? That chart is even more alarming.
The chart that you posted has nothing to do with the statement that education is broken with teacher accountability being a "big piece of the puzzle". That is the part that I chose to address. It's an ignorant statement and one that is easily refuted for people familiar with education.
Charter Schools often produce results that are worse than UNION protected Public Education. Charter School teachers do not have Unions and thus their teachers can be fired at any moment.
Their results are worse even though they are not bound by the same rules as Public educators. Troublesome students are removed at a moment's notice as well as troublesome teachers. When they are removed they become the problem of the neighborhood schools. Neighborhood schools do not possess the "right of first refusal clause" in their contracts either. They have to accept any child thhat falls within their attendance boundaries. There are no exceptions.
When you state that it is politicians that protect Unions you also display complete ignorance. Politicians have pushed Charters and forms of privatized education for the past 15-20 years. They are no friends of Unions, as statistics have shown that Union membership only makes up about 7% of the work force in this country.
If teacher protected Unions are a "big piece of the puzzle" as you assert then why are the results often the same or worse in schools that don't have Unions?
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The Hawk wrote:
This is going to reach a head pretty soon.
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