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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Probably after they went through the process

We know, Seacrest.

I for one believe anyone annoyed about this is simply still bitter about Hillary losing the election. Also there wasn't this kind of scrutiny applied to any of Obama's pardons, so Trump is once again clearly being denied procedural fairness by the media.

I didn't realize how much of a piece of shit this guy is. The conditions of his jails should be illegal.

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No problem. Show me where Sheriff Joe showed any remorse for his crimes, served any time for his crimes, 5 years passing since his conviction, and a DOJ recommendation for the pardon. I mean, you are so concerned about the process. Let's follow it.

What process? Pardons and clemency are privileges of the country's chief executive.

The procedure discussed is how the media treats the executive wielding that power. Obama freed an unrepentant bomb-making terrorist, and anyone that disagreed with or wanted to question the decision was a racist.

True. That Lopez deal and Clinton with Marc Rich were egregious too. But there is some diffrrence in that those were done on the way out according to tradition and also those guys had served some time. This scumbag Joe walks scot-free.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Hmmmm pretty sure Rivera had been in jail for a good long time right? As was Bradley Manning? Until DJT signed that piece of paperwork he was a convicted felon, yet was in a suit and tie on CNN telling me I was racist for saying what he did was racist.

Rednecks we're pissed when Obama let black people out of jail saying he was abusing his power.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

Seems like a cool dude.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/a-p ... on-6629798

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Yeah, but he's an 86-year old convicted of contempt...what's the maximum on that, six months, a year?

Right, but it's more the symbolism of it. It comes across as a "fuck you" to Mexicans. And besides that, both of these guys are hypocrites droning on about "law and order" except when they want to scoff at the law.

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Freedom is our Strength.

Not to be a dick but where is that enumerated in the Constitution?

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Didn't one of the guys Obama pardoned get picked and put right back in like 3 months later?

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Is that why you hate him so much? He didn't give you a pardon?

The people on the left want to get Sheriff Joe, but they forget that Obama and his administration were basically ignoring immigration law and allowing DACA when it could not pass the Congress.

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God is the uncaused cause of the universe. He had no beginning and has no end. He is not bound by the laws of the universe he created.

Except ignoring the law is not quite the same as ignoring a court order.

The Fourth Amendment guards against illegal search and seizure, which is what he was doing without cause other than ethnicity.

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Um I just read the synopses on the cornell law school page,nothing on there about that kinda stuff so please give me some sources that I can use to verify.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

What?

What do you think his contempt conviction was for? It was for illegally searching and detaining people without any reason other than suspecting they were illegal.

I'm not sure how this is confusing.

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For every Sheriff Joe there's hundreds of mayors and governors that are openly bragging about how they have and will continue to ignore federal immigration law. There are people who have died because the American citizens were killed by the policies of those liberal politicians.

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God is the uncaused cause of the universe. He had no beginning and has no end. He is not bound by the laws of the universe he created.

Start reading the Amendments to the US constitution. You'll find it enumerated there. If you read beyond the 14th Amendment, you went too far.

When an officer observes unusual conduct which leads him reasonably to conclude that criminal activity may be afoot, the officer may briefly stop the suspicious person and make reasonable inquiries aimed at confirming or dispelling the officer's suspicions.
Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968)
Minnesota v. Dickerson, 508 U.S. 366 (1993)

An officer at an international border may conduct routine stops and searches.
United States v. Montoya de Hernandez, 473 U.S. 531 (1985).

Where there is probable cause to believe that a vehicle contains evidence of a criminal activity, an officer may lawfully search any area of the vehicle in which the evidence might be found.
Arizona v. Gant, 129 S. Ct. 1710 (2009),

An officer may conduct a traffic stop if he has reasonable suspicion that a traffic violation has occurred or that criminal activity is afoot.
Berekmer v. McCarty, 468 U.S. 420 (1984),
United States v. Arvizu, 534 U.S. 266 (2002).

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

You win, chas. I can't argue with your superior logic.

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Well... I looked at Facebook. Big fans of the move are my friends from out west. Asking why not Bundys and affiliates. Ugh.

Sounds like your friends are very fine people.

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Eh... people I met while out west or on an industry message board. Most are comments of their friends but there are A few older guys that really have problems with the federal government. It's not an non typical worldview out there to have issues with government ownership of land and many have to deal with BLM and USFS which doesn't exactly sound like fun and games. Oddly the Canadians are bigger fans still. I can probably narrow it down to three families. Maybe 4 that are the epicenter to these posts.

Quit a bit of this is comments on a Range magazine editorial. I used to like that magazine 20 years ago as I found it informative and pertinent to what I was studying. Found it filled a bit of void in my midwestern upbringing. It's swung a little to the right (read that as a lot) over the past few years. At times I am tempted to block or ignore the posts of these people but I guess I'm unwilling to completely isolate myself from the people I knew in that time in my life.

I can't say that I'm a fan of immigration, legal or otherwise (it's a moot point, in many ways, since we seem to live in an age of migration), but what they were doing to people was clearly wrong, not to mention explicitly illegal. What he did to prisoners in Arizona was worse.

When I was a kid, part of me used to want to like this guy, but he's shown himself to be a politician in the worst senses of the word: he panders and fabricates to get elected and then hides behind some kind of "I tell it like it is" facade. Guy's just full of shit.

Honestly, though, I think the situation he is in probably pushed him to be more authoritarian than he would have been. I could see it undermining his sense of agency.

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I like thinking big. . . If you're going to be thinking anything, you might as well think big.
-Donald J. Trump, BPE