Never saw Lotr or cared to, but yeah I don't know. he's just a weak, shitty character to me and has been for 7 seasons.

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I was wondering about something like that in the final scene when he was lurking near the doorway. Plus Cersei threw in the line "You really are the dumb Lannister" when she was talking to Jaime. I can't believe he didn't get Ned Stark'd to end that scene.

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He can't see all the future but I think he can see things if he knows what to look for. That's what explains why he didn't know about the annulment. He didn't even know to look for it. I assume he would look at what Kings Landing looks like in 100 years and see if it is filled with dead guys just walking around.

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He specifically said he can see the past and everything happening now. You would think he would mention seeing the future if that was his power.

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I dont know this world back and forth but has Bran, the old Raven or any of the Warging weirdos ever gone into the future?

GOT is better but if you like this I think you'd enjoy Lotr.

If anything, it's interesting to watch Lotr and try and see how GOT would have to be compacted into about 10 hours of content if it had instead been 3 movies.

I also think the battle scenes in GOT owe a ton to the work that was done on Lotr.

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The fact that they didnt show the end of Ceresi and Tyrion's meeting has to mean something.


A Tyrion heel turn to save the Lannister name would be pretty good.

The old raven could definitely see into the future. Didn't he basically tell Bran exactly what was going to happen to him?

The internet claims that one of his first visions was the wildfire clip in Kings Landing that had yet to be shown and it was the exact same thing that was shown later.

As Hank said though, he needs to know what to look for it seems.

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There's absolutely nothing in Tyrion's character history that suggests he would agree to betray Dany. I could see him agreeing to though in the meeting and then fucking her back over. He knows how she operates and he's going to beat her at her own game.

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GRRM pretty much said in an interview that the big death in the first LOTR (no spoilers for FF) was what inspired his "anyone can die" style.

And yes the battle scenes are very similar. Blackwater is a lot like the war in LOTR 2


I like GoT better because there is time to delve into everything. So much of Middle earth history affects the story but you can only hear bits and pieces. In GoT they've showed a lot more.

To finally be recognized as a True Lannister and the one that saves the house? Maybe something he's always secretly wanted?

He wanted to be heir to Casterly Rock and was crushed when Tywin said No. That whole scene was about how he still loves his family. I could see it.


Seeing the Dragon Sex just made him feel bad about betraying them.


Edit: Also there was nothing in Hulk Hogan's history to suggest he'd join the NWO, which is why it was the best heel turn ever. Would be similar here.

This episode was entertaining but hardly "good" or well written.

The Littlefinger twist made no sense within the logic of the show. It was as though the writers wanted to create a surprise simply for the sake of being surprising.

The Theon subplot was so ridiculous it was like a kick to the audience's collective groin.

The romance between Jon and Dany strikes me as odd since there isn't any discernible chemistry between them and they haven't exchanged much memorable dialogue.

The Cersei-Jamie betrayal scene was awkward and odd, as was the Cersei-Tyrion encounter. It hasn't been obvious until this season, but the actress playing Cersei is awful--she has absolutely no emotional range.

And why exactly are we supposed to be reassured by Jon's hereditary claim to the throne when the show has gone out of its way to discredit the entire notion of aristocracy?

I liked the dragons, though, and the assault on the wall was pretty cool.

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Maybe but Jaime was always his favorite. Without Jaime he isn't jumping ship to the nWo.

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He's also rightfully concerned that Danaerys is getting power hungry. The burning of the Tarleys ended up with a major change to how Tyrion acted towards her. She also questioned his loyalty a few times this season whenever anything went bad. She could decide to kill the last Lannister to make sure there isn't another rebellion.

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I think this is how it is now but in the earlier seasons, she was good. Her scene waiting with Sansa and Shay and Tommen during Blackwater was great. And her two reckoning scenes with Tywin were great. Showed different sides.

I don't think we are supposed to be reassured. It is a huge spike ready to be driven into the budding relationship between Dany and Jon. 'Dany isn't going to just shrug and say, OK you are the rightful King. Enjoy the Iron Throne, I'll just be the pretty wife.' Jon's pride and strict moral code are going to make it hard for him to just ignore the truth and let Dany be Queen...not to mention I think he's going to be weirded out fucking his Aunt despite that being totally cool with the Targs.

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I agree. He explained himself to Cersei and someone like her should easily understand doing what you need to in order to survive even if it has consequences.

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She's also a psychopath. There isn't really a wide range of emotions to portray at this point. She exists to be the worst person on the show and for people to say "Don't be like her".

Plus she was awesome in 300.

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Yea, I feel the same way about Ramsay. Most of the characters on the show are one-dimensional.

There's 2 wars to fight in six episodes next season. There's no way they can actually pull that off.

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Don't forget that they will be wasting valuable episode minutes on Greyjoy Rescue II: Electric Boogaloo.

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Isnt Theon going to the wrong place? He thinks Euron is going to the Iron Islands but he's really going to get the army?

I hope all the Greyjoys die in that battle.



That'd work.

Basically like 6 short movies.

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Yeah.

It's cool though.

Theon will just wait around.

Or Euron will sail half a world away and back in a few days and be back in time for the cockless wonder's attack.

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Where is Melisandre and the other new Priestess? They should give Theon his cock back.

Maybe it all comes down to cocks in the end.

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She can't / won't kill family. As terrible as she is, she cares about the Lannisters. If she couldn't kill Tyrion, she definitely couldn't kill Jaime.

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Tommen is dead because of her actions.

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Tommen was weak. He was the Fredo of the family.