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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:40 am 
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why don't we use weather technology to avoid these situations? or is it not allowed due to the U.N. or something?


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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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why don't we use weather technology to avoid these situations? or is it not allowed due to the U.N. or something?

lol, wut?


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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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I will take cold winters and be thankful.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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HawaiiYou wrote:
why don't we use weather technology to avoid these situations? or is it not allowed due to the U.N. or something?

lol, wut?





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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:23 am 
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The last report I saw said there have been only six deaths due to Harvey. That's pretty remarkable given the amount of damage (if anything, there are probably more deaths in a normal weekend). The people asking why there wasn't an evacuation of Houston are morons.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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The last report I saw said there have been only six deaths due to Harvey. That's pretty remarkable given the amount of damage (if anything, there are probably more deaths in a normal weekend). The people asking why there wasn't an evacuation of Houston are morons.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html


Seeing the pictures and knowing the area a little bit...I'm shocked its only 6 deaths.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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The last report I saw said there have been only six deaths due to Harvey. That's pretty remarkable given the amount of damage (if anything, there are probably more deaths in a normal weekend). The people asking why there wasn't an evacuation of Houston are morons.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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HawaiiYou wrote:
why don't we use weather technology to avoid these situations? or is it not allowed due to the U.N. or something?

Correct. The U.N. has banned weather technology.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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My Boss is from Texas and he said his whole family has lost everything and is waiting to hear from his sister if she made it out last night. Thoughts and prayers to anyone that knows or has family in that area.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Yeah its pretty sad. They are getting a full year's worth of rain in just a few days.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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My Boss is from Texas and he said his whole family has lost everything and is waiting to here from his sister if she made it out last night. Thoughts and prayers to anyone that knows or has family in that area.


How far inland are they from the Gulf? It seems like the extent of this is pretty broad.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Pretty sure Houston had the most Katrina relocators. Should see a bunch of "I can't believe it happened to me again!" stories.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:16 am 
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It may be time to rethink just how many massive population centers we are putting in places with a high chance for catastrophe like southern coastal areas. It's great to leave from the Midwest to the South because the winters are better but then you get a situation like this when a massive storm like this shows up and it is nearly impossible to evacuate a large portion of the population.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:20 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Outlaw coastal living for your own good. The government knows better. California, the south and NYC are now for vacation only.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Move x 50,000,000
:lol: I don't mean to that extreme. Population centers gain and lose population. There are a lot of negative consequences to shifting from the Midwest to the South especially those cities that are close to the coast.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Outlaw coastal living for your own good. The government knows better. California, the south and NYC are now for vacation only.

When the government, which is funded by people like you and me, have to pay to clean up this mess because people didn't want to deal with snow, I think it's fair to question whether it is good for the country to be seemingly moving everyone to the coast. It's more about the South though. Even the bad hurricane in NYC ended up being a long term problem only for the underground subway. California also really doesn't have major hurricane concerns. There have been 2 of them since 1900.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Outlaw coastal living for your own good. The government knows better. California, the south and NYC are now for vacation only.

When the government, which is funded by people like you and me, have to pay to clean up this mess because people didn't want to deal with snow, I think it's fair to question whether it is good for the country to be seemingly moving everyone to the coast. It's more about the South though. Even the bad hurricane in NYC ended up being a long term problem only for the underground subway. California also really doesn't have major hurricane concerns. There have been 2 of them since 1900.


Yes but California has their own natural disaster problems that should be avoided by humans.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Outlaw coastal living for your own good. The government knows better. California, the south and NYC are now for vacation only.

When the government, which is funded by people like you and me, have to pay to clean up this mess because people didn't want to deal with snow, I think it's fair to question whether it is good for the country to be seemingly moving everyone to the coast. It's more about the South though. Even the bad hurricane in NYC ended up being a long term problem only for the underground subway. California also really doesn't have major hurricane concerns. There have been 2 of them since 1900.



Won't have a choice. Coasts will be under water in 20 years and the temperature will raise so much, people will be living in Alaska to miss the summers.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Yes but California has their own natural disaster problems that should be avoided by humans.
Here is the breakdown of the top ten costliest natural disasters since 1980. This one will clearly make the list.

Hurricane Katrina
1988 drought
1994 California Earthquake
1980 drought
Hurricane Andrew
Midwest floods
Hurricane Ike
Hurricane Wilma
Hurricane Charley
Hurricane Ivan

I'm not sure why it isn't there, but I'll put Hurricane Sandy on the list and now Hurricane Harvey. That means that Southern hurricanes make up 7/12, with the droughts being something that can happen anywhere so it can't really be avoided. One earthquake, one river flooding, and one Northeast hurricane.

I think it's pretty clear that Southern hurricanes are a bigger deal than just the standard "You can have weather anywhere!".

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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pittmike wrote:
Yes but California has their own natural disaster problems that should be avoided by humans.
Here is the breakdown of the top ten costliest natural disasters since 1980. This one will clearly make the list.

Hurricane Katrina
1988 drought
1994 California Earthquake
1980 drought
Hurricane Andrew
Midwest floods
Hurricane Ike
Hurricane Wilma
Hurricane Charley
Hurricane Ivan

I'm not sure why it isn't there, but I'll put Hurricane Sandy on the list and now Hurricane Harvey. That means that Southern hurricanes make up 7/12, with the droughts being something that can happen anywhere so it can't really be avoided. One earthquake, one river flooding, and one Northeast hurricane.

I think it's pretty clear that Southern hurricanes are a bigger deal than just the standard "You can have weather anywhere!".


That isn't really important though. If you are aiming to save the people and the costs involved you must move all the people from the potential natural disaster areas. I would use the criteria that if any hurricane or earthquake occurred in a coastal area it must be cleared out.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Outlaw coastal living for your own good. The government knows better. California, the south and NYC are now for vacation only.


Game changing opinion coming from a traditional Climate-Change denying Trump supporter like you.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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pittmike wrote:
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pittmike wrote:
Yes but California has their own natural disaster problems that should be avoided by humans.
Here is the breakdown of the top ten costliest natural disasters since 1980. This one will clearly make the list.

Hurricane Katrina
1988 drought
1994 California Earthquake
1980 drought
Hurricane Andrew
Midwest floods
Hurricane Ike
Hurricane Wilma
Hurricane Charley
Hurricane Ivan

I'm not sure why it isn't there, but I'll put Hurricane Sandy on the list and now Hurricane Harvey. That means that Southern hurricanes make up 7/12, with the droughts being something that can happen anywhere so it can't really be avoided. One earthquake, one river flooding, and one Northeast hurricane.

I think it's pretty clear that Southern hurricanes are a bigger deal than just the standard "You can have weather anywhere!".


That isn't really important though. If you are aiming to save the people and the costs involved you must move all the people from the potential natural disaster areas. I would use the criteria that if any hurricane or earthquake occurred in a coastal area it must be cleared out.


Cleared out for how long? Your idea is obviously flawed.

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I think most people are fleeing high costs of living, crime and bad government when they move to the south. Weather is an aggravating factor, if life was good in Chicago people wouldn't leave.


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pittmike wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Yes but California has their own natural disaster problems that should be avoided by humans.
Here is the breakdown of the top ten costliest natural disasters since 1980. This one will clearly make the list.

Hurricane Katrina
1988 drought
1994 California Earthquake
1980 drought
Hurricane Andrew
Midwest floods
Hurricane Ike
Hurricane Wilma
Hurricane Charley
Hurricane Ivan

I'm not sure why it isn't there, but I'll put Hurricane Sandy on the list and now Hurricane Harvey. That means that Southern hurricanes make up 7/12, with the droughts being something that can happen anywhere so it can't really be avoided. One earthquake, one river flooding, and one Northeast hurricane.

I think it's pretty clear that Southern hurricanes are a bigger deal than just the standard "You can have weather anywhere!".


That isn't really important though. If you are aiming to save the people and the costs involved you must move all the people from the potential natural disaster areas. I would use the criteria that if any hurricane or earthquake occurred in a coastal area it must be cleared out.


Cleared out for how long? Your idea is obviously flawed.


Forever, clearly. Lives and dollars will be saved.

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PittMike, are you in favor of forcing people out if these locations long term via government enforced regulations?


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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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PittMike, are you in favor of forcing people out if these locations long term via government enforced regulations?


Yes. Forbid living in the areas outlined. They should be used only for recreational ventures to enjoy their beauty and advantages. Recreation can be planned easily around forecasts of threats.

We as a country cannot continue to subsidize this lifestyle choice.

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PittMike, are you in favor of forcing people out if these locations long term via government enforced regulations?


Yes. Forbid living in the areas outlined. They should be used only for recreational ventures to enjoy their beauty and advantages. Recreation can be planned easily around forecasts of threats.

We as a country cannot continue to subsidize this lifestyle choice.


So you want to tell people where they can and cannot call home...based on what more than likely is the biggest hoax of the modern era(climate change)? Sounds like borderline socialism, Mike.


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