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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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PittMike, are you in favor of forcing people out if these locations long term via government enforced regulations?


Yes. Forbid living in the areas outlined. They should be used only for recreational ventures to enjoy their beauty and advantages. Recreation can be planned easily around forecasts of threats.

We as a country cannot continue to subsidize this lifestyle choice.


So you want to tell people where they can and cannot call home...based on what more than likely is the biggest hoax of the modern era(climate change)? Sounds like borderline socialism, Mike.


Why aren't you listening? Lives and dollars would be spared. Take the people from there and repopulate the Dakotas. They can replace their windows with giant LCD displays and watch paradise.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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That isn't really important though. If you are aiming to save the people and the costs involved you must move all the people from the potential natural disaster areas. I would use the criteria that if any hurricane or earthquake occurred in a coastal area it must be cleared out.
You've created quite a strawman here.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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pittmike wrote:
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PittMike, are you in favor of forcing people out if these locations long term via government enforced regulations?


Yes. Forbid living in the areas outlined. They should be used only for recreational ventures to enjoy their beauty and advantages. Recreation can be planned easily around forecasts of threats.

We as a country cannot continue to subsidize this lifestyle choice.


So you want to tell people where they can and cannot call home...based on what more than likely is the biggest hoax of the modern era(climate change)? Sounds like borderline socialism, Mike.


Why aren't you listening? Lives and dollars would be spared. Take the people from there and repopulate the Dakotas. They can replace their windows with giant LCD displays and watch paradise.


Lives? It's called free-will Mike. The government can't force lifestyle choices on people. You want to talk about money, when these weather events prove to be natural ebbs and flows in our planets natural ecological cycle, how will you explain the cost of relocating millions of people to the Midwest based on your liberal hoax?


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Caller Bob wrote:
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PittMike, are you in favor of forcing people out if these locations long term via government enforced regulations?


Yes. Forbid living in the areas outlined. They should be used only for recreational ventures to enjoy their beauty and advantages. Recreation can be planned easily around forecasts of threats.

We as a country cannot continue to subsidize this lifestyle choice.


So you want to tell people where they can and cannot call home...based on what more than likely is the biggest hoax of the modern era(climate change)? Sounds like borderline socialism, Mike.


Why aren't you listening? Lives and dollars would be spared. Take the people from there and repopulate the Dakotas. They can replace their windows with giant LCD displays and watch paradise.


Lives? It's called free-will Mike. The government can't force lifestyle choices on people. You want to talk about money, when these weather events prove to be natural ebbs and flows in our planets natural ecological cycle, how will you explain the cost of relocating millions of people to the Midwest based on your liberal hoax?


When it comes to caring about the lives of our citizens no cost benefit analysis is important.

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Sorry Mike, you can keep your "big government".


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My ideas are no less important than seat belt laws.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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My ideas are no less important than seat belt laws.


Accident data with the use of seat belts vs no seat belts is based on verified/accurate metrics.

Your humanitarian relocation plan is based on the greatest liberal hoax of all time. Get back to the Bernie Sanders campaign office.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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It's called free-will Mike. The government can't force lifestyle choices on people.
This makes sense. It may be time to start shifting more of the risk of hurricane damage to those who choose to move to areas that are vulnerable to hurricanes. Have a portion of your federal income tax be dependent on the risk of natural disaster financial damage.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Trump should build a wall in the Gulf to stop these storms. And Mexico is gonna pay for it. Believe me. It will be the greatest weather wall in the world.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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It's called free-will Mike. The government can't force lifestyle choices on people.
This makes sense. It may be time to start shifting more of the risk of hurricane damage to those who choose to move to areas that are vulnerable to hurricanes. Have a portion of your federal income tax be dependent on the risk of natural disaster financial damage.


That's not a bad idea Rick. All the while you still leave the market open. IMO, since I don't share the same liberal views(hoax) on climate change as Mike, I see some market inefficiencies opening up on this coastal land. When the climate cycle returns to normal, I should be able to cash in on the risk/premiums I paid on said investment.

Socialists like Mike, really irritate me. You live your life, I will live mine.


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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Outlaw coastal living for your own good. The government knows better. California, the south and NYC are now for vacation only.

It's quite possible a lot of the damage in Houston was exacerbated by its lack of sensible zoning laws.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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The Federal Flood Insurance Program and Citizens in FL underprices risk, which allows people to live in vulnerable areas. Oh well, there are many instances where the broader public pays for the benefit of a much smaller subset. Farming subsidies and price supports are a great example.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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It's called free-will Mike. The government can't force lifestyle choices on people.
This makes sense. It may be time to start shifting more of the risk of hurricane damage to those who choose to move to areas that are vulnerable to hurricanes. Have a portion of your federal income tax be dependent on the risk of natural disaster financial damage.


Well now you are on the train of right thinking. But you only care about dollars. What about lives?

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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The Federal Flood Insurance Program and Citizens in FL underprices risk, which allows people to live in vulnerable areas. Oh well, there are many instances where the broader public pays for the benefit of a much smaller subset. Farming subsidies and price supports are a great example.


Take your libertarian gobbly freebie somewhere else. I am saving lives here.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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pittmike wrote:
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It's called free-will Mike. The government can't force lifestyle choices on people.
This makes sense. It may be time to start shifting more of the risk of hurricane damage to those who choose to move to areas that are vulnerable to hurricanes. Have a portion of your federal income tax be dependent on the risk of natural disaster financial damage.


Well now you are on the train of right thinking. But you only care about dollars. What about lives?
I'm sure others will move there to replace them.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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gobbly nut

Hah!

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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Hah!


I guess you can confuse a Chinese bad word there.

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The auto-censor picking up a false positive was just the bit of levity this shitshow thread needed.

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Won't have to worry about Houston catching Chicago for 3rd most populous US city!


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It is interesting to look at Europe and the Romans and see how they had very little interest in situating their largest or most important cities directly on the coast.


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It is interesting to look at Europe and the Romans and see how they had very little interest in situating their largest or most important cities directly on the coast.


They're no longer superpowers either. #USA

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Won't have to worry about Houston catching Chicago for 3rd most populous US city!
They are downing in our wake.

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 Post subject: Re: Hurricane Harvey
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It is interesting to look at Europe and the Romans and see how they had very little interest in situating their largest or most important cities directly on the coast.


They're no longer superpowers either. #USA

Yea well we are the ones reading, writing, speaking and thinking in a dialect of a 2000+++ year old language that emanated from the other side of the planet.


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It is interesting to look at Europe and the Romans and see how they had very little interest in situating their largest or most important cities directly on the coast.
There are very good reasons why our biggest cities are situated near the biggest bodies of water in the country. It's just a lot less important now and we are seemingly still expanding those cities especially in the South.

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Miami is already planning for the inevitable sea-level rise. I mean, it's not like splitting the atom. It can be done. You really think all these incredibly valued beach front lands are just going to be abandoned?


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Miami is already planning for the inevitable sea-level rise. I mean, it's not like splitting the atom. It can be done. You really think all these incredibly valued beach front lands are just going to be abandoned?
Did you read too much pittmike? I'm not saying anything close to abandon these cities.

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Uh, isn't downtown Rome is like 40 miles from the Mediterranean Sea?

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Uh, isn't downtown Rome is like 40 miles from the Mediterranean Sea?


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Uh, isn't downtown Rome is like 40 miles from the Mediterranean Sea?

Rome is way above sea level, at least to the point where storms aren't a threat.


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