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Post subject: John McCain

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:04 pm

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John McCain, a Republican, represents Arizona in the U.S. Senate.

Americans recoiled from the repugnant spectacle of white supremacists marching in Charlottesville to promote their un-American “blood and soil” ideology. There is nothing in their hate-driven racism that can match the strength of a nation conceived in liberty and comprising 323 million souls of different origins and opinions who are equal under the law.

Most of us share Heather Heyer’s values, not the depravity of the man who took her life. We are the country that led the free world to victory over fascism and dispatched communism to the ash heap of history. We are the superpower that organized not an empire, but an international order of free, independent nations that has liberated more people from poverty and tyranny than anyone thought possible in the age of colonies and autocracies.

Our shared values define us more than our differences. And acknowledging those shared values can see us through our challenges today if we have the wisdom to trust in them again.

Congress will return from recess next week facing continued gridlock as we lurch from one self-created crisis to another. We are proving inadequate not only to our most difficult problems but also to routine duties. Our national political campaigns never stop. We seem convinced that majorities exist to impose their will with few concessions and that minorities exist to prevent the party in power from doing anything important.

That’s not how we were meant to govern. Our entire system of government — with its checks and balances, its bicameral Congress, its protections of the rights of the minority — was designed for compromise. It seldom works smoothly or speedily. It was never expected to.

It requires pragmatic problem-solving from even the most passionate partisans. It relies on compromise between opposing sides to protect the interests we share. We can fight like hell for our ideas to prevail. But we have to respect each other or at least respect the fact that we need each other.

That has never been truer than today, when Congress must govern with a president who has no experience of public office, is often poorly informed and can be impulsive in his speech and conduct.

We must respect his authority and constitutional responsibilities. We must, where we can, cooperate with him. But we are not his subordinates. We don’t answer to him. We answer to the American people. We must be diligent in discharging our responsibility to serve as a check on his power. And we should value our identity as members of Congress more than our partisan affiliation.

I argued during the health-care debate for areturn to regular order, letting committees of jurisdiction do the principal work of crafting legislation and letting the full Senate debate and amend their efforts.

We won’t settle all our differences that way, but such an approach is more likely to make progress on the central problems confronting our constituents. We might not like the compromises regular order requires, but we can and must live with them if we are to find real and lasting solutions. And all of us in Congress have the duty, in this sharply polarized atmosphere, to defend the necessity of compromise before the American public.

Let’s try that approach on a budget that realistically meets the nation’s critical needs. We all know spending levels for defense and other urgent priorities have been woefully inadequate for years. But we haven’t found the will to work together to adjust them. The appropriators can’t complete their spending bills, and we’re stuck with threats of agovernment shutdown and continuing resolutions that underfund national security. A compromise that raises spending caps for both sides’ priorities is better than the abject failure that has been our achievement to date.

Let’s also try that approach on immigration. The president has promised greater border security. We can agree to that. A literal wallmight not be the most effective means to that end, but we can provide the resources necessary to secure the border with smart and affordable measures. Let’s make it part of a comprehensive bill that members of both parties can get behind — one that values our security as well as the humanity of immigrants and their contributions to our economy and culture.

Let’s try it on tax reform and infrastructure improvement and all the other urgent priorities confronting us. These are all opportunities to show that ordinary, decent, free people can govern competently, respectfully and humbly, and to prove the value of the United States Congress to the great nation we serve.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:39 pm

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He seems like he's back to not being a jag.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:45 pm

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tommy wrote:

He seems like he's back to not being a jag.

Death being around the corner does that to a man.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:08 pm

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That has never been truer than today, when Congress must govern with a president who has no experience of public office, is often poorly informed and can be impulsive in his speech and conduct.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:25 pm

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Yeah McCain yay you go! Now find the reasonable people on both sides of the aisle to put good shit on Trumps desk and force his hand.

What none of you understand is that is what Trump probably wants anyway. Have congress get some reasonable stuff together and he signs it. Then he says look at what a wonderful job I did.

We all worked with bosses like this. The congress and senate beholden to their extreme constituencies is the larger problem than we realize.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:02 pm

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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/hope ... 37893.html

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:00 pm

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/john-mccain- ... 00054.html

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:13 pm

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He's the best.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:28 pm

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I'd feel a lot better about his new found set of balls if not for the fact that he sounded like he had dementia during the Comey hearing.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:33 pm

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Nas wrote:

John McCain, a Republican, represents Arizona in the U.S. Senate.

We must respect his authority and constitutional responsibilities. We must, where we can, cooperate with him. But we are not his subordinates. We don’t answer to him. We answer to the American people. We must be diligent in discharging our responsibility to serve as a check on his power. And we should value our identity as members of Congress more than our partisan affiliation.

Sounds like he's been listening to Rand Paul.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:35 pm

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Hank Scorpio wrote:

I'd feel a lot better about his new found set of balls if not for the fact that he sounded like he had dementia during the Comey hearing.

I'll give him a pass. The guy could go home and spend his last few months with his family but he still wants to serve his country. He's given just about everything to this country and I'll always respect him for his service.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:35 pm

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Franky T wrote:

Nas wrote:

Sounds like he's been listening to Rand Paul.

McCain said it months ago.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:44 pm

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Nas wrote:

Hank Scorpio wrote:

I'd feel a lot better about his new found set of balls if not for the fact that he sounded like he had dementia during the Comey hearing.

I must be just overly jaded, as I don't think John McCain is still working because he feels the need to serve his country. I'm not slamming him and have no beef with McCain....for the most part, I like his voting record. I just think his continued work has more to do with ego and pride.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:11 pm

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Watch the entire video

https://youtu.be/WtHdhAYqass

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lindsey-grah ... 25721.html

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:44 pm

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Little bit of fire there.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:54 pm

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He broke his promise on the campaign trail and he's an idiot if he thinks there will be a bipartisan effort to repeal and replace Obamacare. He's a perfect example of why they need term limits in the Senate. Democrats generally never cave on anything. Republicans like John McCain cave to Democrats and that's the difference between the two parties.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:57 pm

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:57 pm

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Democrats have already worked with President Trump more than Republicans worked with Obama.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:59 pm

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:01 pm

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Swung on and belted!

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:10 am

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The end must be near because I haven't heard anyone mention him.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

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Nas wrote:

The end must be near because I haven't heard anyone mention him.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/po ... 076798001/

Ailing Sen. John McCain has not returned to Washington, D.C., and is not expected to attend Tuesday night’s State of the Union address from President Donald Trump.

McCain, R-Ariz., is battling an aggressive form of brain cancer and was hospitalized in December in Bethesda, Maryland, for a viral infection and side effects to his ongoing chemotherapy and radiation treatments.

McCain’s office has not provided an official update on the senator’s health since Dec. 17 but, at that time, he signaled he looked forward to returning to the Senate in January, a goal he now appears certain to miss.

McCain, 81, has been undergoing physical therapy in Arizona but has kept up with developments. He has continued to put out statements and remain active on Twitter, but he missed a major vote on the Trump-backed tax-reform legislation and sat out this month's brief partial government shutdown.

His daughter Meghan McCain, a TV commentator, said earlier this month on ABC's "The View" that McCain had been getting physical therapy at the family's cabin near Sedona.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

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He's bitter that he was never elected President, and he will never forget Trump chastising him for being taken alive in Vietnam.

That, and he is but one step away from being considered a certified madman.

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Post subject: Re: John McCain

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:25 am

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The guy complained about Obamacare for eight fuckin' years and when he had a chance to actually do something about it he decided it was more important to shove it up Donald Trump's ass. That isn't what I call integrity.

But what would one expect from someone who seems to be advocating the concept of a permanent political class.

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MANY people don't understand that repeal and replace is far different than a straight repeal. Questioning the integrity of a man who has repeatedly sacrificed for America while defending/worshipping a man daily who lacks integrity and wouldn't sacrifice anything for America is really remarkable. Just as remarkable as claiming to care about America's future but going out of his way to defend a president that has done nothing but try to destroy the institutions that make America special. Maybe he's closer to Tall Midget than he realizes.

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Nas wrote:

The Republican plan was horrible. He did them a favor.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Nas wrote:

The Republican plan was horrible. He did them a favor.

Yep! Let's repeal it and then replace it at a later date was an AWFUL plan.

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:18 am

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Nas wrote:

Maybe he's closer to Tall Midget than he realizes.

Wait, what?

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:20 am

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Tall Midget wrote:

Nas wrote:

Maybe he's closer to Tall Midget than he realizes.

Wait, what?

I think you said that you were fine with blowing things up and starting over.

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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:24 am

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Nas wrote:

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Nas wrote:

Maybe he's closer to Tall Midget than he realizes.

Wait, what?

I think you said that you were fine with blowing things up and starting over.

Blowing what up?

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