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Do you let your daughter do math and science and sports?


She's two, but yes, of course. She has my genes, and I don't want to deprive the world of her genius.

In all seriousness, I consider myself socially progressive, but I was raised in bumblefuck. There is an emotional Conservatism that will always exist. It's not like I'm actively hating people. I just have a mental framework of how gender roles work, and if I'm being honest, I want my girl to be a girl and I would want my boy to be a boy.

It is a generational thing. Cooking is fun though. You'll get there.

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leashyourkids wrote:
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Do you let your daughter do math and science and sports?


She's two, but yes, of course. She has my genes, and I don't want to deprive the world of her genius.

In all seriousness, I consider myself socially progressive, but I was raised in bumblefuck. There is an emotional Conservatism that will always exist. It's not like I'm actively hating people. I just have a mental framework of how gender roles work, and if I'm being honest, I want my girl to be a girl and I would want my boy to be a boy.

It sure is easier that way, but you'll adapt if it doesn't quite work out that way. Your boys may hate sports. Your girls may hate whatever girls are supposed to like. As long as you are supportive of their positive traits and interests, who cares. That's what I've learned.

They're all gonna be into video games anyway.


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We're assuming lyk is bothered by the kitchen as is, but maybe he's bothered because it didn't have as many kitchen tools as he would have liked. We already know the lack of a play steamer in lyk's childhood has had real world implications. If lyk wants today's play kitchens to have more tools then I say let him think that way.


Vegan fan, huh? You must be a "gatherer".


:lol:

That's a pretty good one.

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leashyourkids wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Do you let your daughter do math and science and sports?


She's two, but yes, of course. She has my genes, and I don't want to deprive the world of her genius.

In all seriousness, I consider myself socially progressive, but I was raised in bumblefuck. There is an emotional Conservatism that will always exist. It's not like I'm actively hating people. I just have a mental framework of how gender roles work, and if I'm being honest, I want my girl to be a girl and I would want my boy to be a boy.


That sounds pretty self aware. Why, then, do you constantly litter the board with these bullshit please for validation?

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leashyourkids wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Do you let your daughter do math and science and sports?


She's two, but yes, of course. She has my genes, and I don't want to deprive the world of her genius.

In all seriousness, I consider myself socially progressive, but I was raised in bumblefuck. There is an emotional Conservatism that will always exist. It's not like I'm actively hating people. I just have a mental framework of how gender roles work, and if I'm being honest, I want my girl to be a girl and I would want my boy to be a boy.


That sounds pretty self aware. Why, then, do you constantly litter the board with these bullshit please for validation?


I don't know what a "please" is.

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Being a parent means letting your kids explore avenues you didn't or couldn't. There is nothing wrong with a boy playing with a cooking set or dolls and there is nothing wrong with a girl playing with robots or rockets. It means nothing at this age - it means they are curious and learning and that is what you should always encourage as a parent. Teach them how to make decisions and how to deal with stress and it doesn't matter what they play with as they will be equipped to deal with life. Namaste.

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Telegram Sam wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Do you let your daughter do math and science and sports?


She's two, but yes, of course. She has my genes, and I don't want to deprive the world of her genius.

In all seriousness, I consider myself socially progressive, but I was raised in bumblefuck. There is an emotional Conservatism that will always exist. It's not like I'm actively hating people. I just have a mental framework of how gender roles work, and if I'm being honest, I want my girl to be a girl and I would want my boy to be a boy.


That sounds pretty self aware. Why, then, do you constantly litter the board with these bullshit please for validation?


If I may be frank...

I appreciate your occasional one-liner, but if it weren't for people like me who like to be goofy and pose questions that generate discussion (there are MANY who do this), then this message board wouldn't exist. You are certainly witty and appreciated (and you genuinely are both of those), but no one logs on to read parodies of song lyrics from bands they've never heard of.

We all have our roles.

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leashyourkids wrote:
Telegram Sam wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Do you let your daughter do math and science and sports?


She's two, but yes, of course. She has my genes, and I don't want to deprive the world of her genius.

In all seriousness, I consider myself socially progressive, but I was raised in bumblefuck. There is an emotional Conservatism that will always exist. It's not like I'm actively hating people. I just have a mental framework of how gender roles work, and if I'm being honest, I want my girl to be a girl and I would want my boy to be a boy.


That sounds pretty self aware. Why, then, do you constantly litter the board with these bullshit please for validation?


If I may be frank...

I appreciate your occasional one-liner, but if it weren't for people like me who like to be goofy and pose questions that generate discussion (there are MANY who do this), then this message board wouldn't exist. You are certainly witty and appreciated (and you genuinely are both of those), but no one logs on to read parodies of song lyrics from bands they've never heard of.

We all have our roles.

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This was a good question.

It's something a lot in our generation have to think about.

It's actually quite fun to learn to cook. My dad never did. I'm glad that it became something I need to do. Have FF teach you. He's a pro.

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When our son was younger, his OT recommended we get him a kitchen set to assist in his organizational thinking.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Telegram Sam wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Do you let your daughter do math and science and sports?


She's two, but yes, of course. She has my genes, and I don't want to deprive the world of her genius.

In all seriousness, I consider myself socially progressive, but I was raised in bumblefuck. There is an emotional Conservatism that will always exist. It's not like I'm actively hating people. I just have a mental framework of how gender roles work, and if I'm being honest, I want my girl to be a girl and I would want my boy to be a boy.


That sounds pretty self aware. Why, then, do you constantly litter the board with these bullshit please for validation?


If I may be frank...

I appreciate your occasional one-liner, but if it weren't for people like me who like to be goofy and pose questions that generate discussion (there are MANY who do this), then this message board wouldn't exist. You are certainly witty and appreciated (and you genuinely are both of those), but no one logs on to read parodies of song lyrics from bands they've never heard of.

We all have our roles.

Love,

leash
This was a good question.

It's something a lot in our generation have to think about.

It's actually quite fun to learn to cook. My dad never did. I'm glad that it became something I need to do. Have FF teach you. He's a pro.


Thank you, Rick.

I actually cook a lot now but didn't start until probably five years ago. I enjoy the hell out of it (sans peas). I'm not good at it by any means, but it really is fun to try.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
When our son was younger, his OT recommended we get him a kitchen set to assist in his organizational thinking.

And it did help.

Exact same thing here. It helped with language, movement, organizing ideas, etc.

After he stopped playing with it, I stashed some skunk weed my brother-in-law gave me at Christmas. Great weed. Wife said the oven smelled bad and threw it out. Sucks.


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Teach him to cook, it'll help him score with the ladies.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
When our son was younger, his OT recommended we get him a kitchen set to assist in his organizational thinking.

And it did help.


That's great, Doc.

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Put it in the garage so you can hang out with him when it rains.

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Of all the people here why would you choose to be frank?

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There are lots of times I'm glad my first child was a daughter. All of these choices became no brainers as all of the things were already here. I try not to stress over gender roles over things like this. In hindsight I'd embrace the kitchen. Everyone should know how to cook.


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I would have to see the colors of the kitchen but my instincts says no.

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As long as you don't have any miniature fucking blue apron meals as part of the set its all good.

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My daughter has a friend her age (a boy) who has a toy kitchen with a kettle, food, utensils, etc. Would you be okay with that for your son?

Maybe some of you do for your sons and I'm just a Neanderthal, but that would bother me a little. Sorry, it's just how I feel.



we got one for our oldest son when he was about two. He loved it and would play with it for hours thus allowing me to sleep off hangovers on the sofa.

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We got one, hand-me-down, and both my boys played with it- they both turned out straight. The younger one loves to cook breakfast and grill/smoke cuts of meat. The older, not so much. I doubt the kitchen set had much to do with any of their development.


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I played with one as a child and I've had sex with a woman at least 3 times.

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Being a parent means letting your kids explore avenues you didn't or couldn't. There is nothing wrong with a boy playing with a cooking set or dolls and there is nothing wrong with a girl playing with robots or rockets. It means nothing at this age - it means they are curious and learning and that is what you should always encourage as a parent. Teach them how to make decisions and how to deal with stress and it doesn't matter what they play with as they will be equipped to deal with life. Namaste.


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Being a parent means letting your kids explore avenues you didn't or couldn't. There is nothing wrong with a boy playing with a cooking set or dolls and there is nothing wrong with a girl playing with robots or rockets. It means nothing at this age - it means they are curious and learning and that is what you should always encourage as a parent. Teach them how to make decisions and how to deal with stress and it doesn't matter what they play with as they will be equipped to deal with life. Namaste.


You're probably right but I will probably always have an issue with my boys playing with "girl" stuff and I won't apologize for it. You can explore as much as you want but Barbie and fingernail polish won't be things that you can play with in my house.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:00 pm 
If he's looking for ideas for a buffet to prepare for the family perhaps I could be of assistance.....


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What the hell is wrong with nail polish? I wore it in high school and college and I still let my 4yo daughter paint my nails if she asks without immediately taking it off. Y'all have some weird hang-ups on gender.


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My daughter has a friend her age (a boy) who has a toy kitchen with a kettle, food, utensils, etc. Would you be okay with that for your son?

Maybe some of you do for your sons and I'm just a Neanderthal, but that would bother me a little. Sorry, it's just how I feel.


I mentioned this before on here. Somewhere there is a picture of me holding my son who is a few months old standing proudly in front of his first big toy:
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What the hell is wrong with nail polish? I wore it in high school and college and I still let my 4yo daughter paint my nails if she asks without immediately taking it off. Y'all have some weird hang-ups on gender.



Yeah, but you are out there being down with the clown so this is a bad argument for people like Tommy and me.

My wife didn't even let our daughter wear nail polish until she was 12 or so and my daughter still is make up free as an early teen which is great contrast from the style of most 14 year old girls out here which at best can be described as some sort of hybrid clown, kubuki and street walker technique.

I'm pretty laid back about this stuff in general. I was slightly concerned when my middle child grabbed a skirt and ran around the house until in turn he grabbed his sword and proceeded to scream he was a Scotsman and delivered a William Wallace like speech to rally his troops.


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What the hell is wrong with nail polish? I wore it in high school and college and I still let my 4yo daughter paint my nails if she asks without immediately taking it off. Y'all have some weird hang-ups on gender.


As a father you do a lot of crap because your daughter(s) tell you too. I’ve worn friendship bracelets for about 7 years because they keep making them. I finally got 1 with blue in it last year.

There are gender specific things when it comes to little boys. I know that we live in this new era where you're shouted at for saying these things. A little boy shouldn't play dress up in his mother clothes, play with makeup or sleep with Barbie dolls. If my 13+ year old son wants to wear nail polish or any of the stuff I listed above because he is gay or because of some trend that is entirely different.

I believe that we're raising more and more bratty and entitled kids because we've decided to allow them to do whatever they want.

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What the hell is wrong with nail polish? I wore it in high school and college and I still let my 4yo daughter paint my nails if she asks without immediately taking it off. Y'all have some weird hang-ups on gender.



Yeah, but you are out there being down with the clown so this is a bad argument for people like Tommy and me.

My wife didn't even let our daughter wear nail polish until she was 12 or so and my daughter still is make up free as an early teen which is great contrast from the style of most 14 year old girls out here which at best can be described as some sort of hybrid clown, kubuki and street walker technique.


I'm pretty laid back about this stuff in general. I was slightly concerned when my middle child grabbed a skirt and ran around the house until in turn he grabbed his sword and proceeded to scream he was a Scotsman and delivered a William Wallace like speech to rally his troops.


I didn't allow my daughters to wear polish until they were like 10 and they still can't wear anything beyond Carmex on their lips. I'm not with the makeup stuff. Be a kid as long as you can. Now if they were/are playing dress up I didn't/don't have an issue with it. When they leave my house they need to look like a child.

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