I'm with you. I am one of the more liberal posters here, but I don't understand this stuff. My boys will be raised as boys.

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Did you clear this with IMU?

calling this part of modern liberalism is like calling the Charlottesville march part of modern conservatism. I don't think we will see a sudden influx of transgender kindergarteners. It's a bit of a tempest in a teapot imo.

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There is no gay panic. This is just you throwing a tantrum and assuming things that haven't been said. It is you and others that are implying their is something wrong with my parenting because I don't want my sons wearing women clothes or makeup or sleeping with Barbie dolls. Maybe you should take a breath and read the thread and then apologize to me.

I started off by saying that my view was probably wrong and repeatedly said that I don't have a problem with any of my kids being gay or making these decisions as a teenager. I even explaned that I don't want them to be confused or be targeted for abuse for a decision they don't understand. That wasn't good enough for you. You needed to shout me down and imply that I was a homophobe. You couldn't even explain why you are okay with your son wearing your wife's clothes or makeup and buying him Barbies.

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For the record, my wife had a gay roommate in college. She has said there were so MANY down low brothers at NIU it made her sick. Makes me think the community tries to pray the gay away as much as us whites.

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I've never once said or implied that. I've merely stated that it would make me uncomfortable with MY kids. I wouldn't judge anyone else's parenting as long as they love and support their kids... and you seem like you probably do that or would do that.

My original statement about kitchens was probably extreme, but I still wouldn't want my boy playing with dolls. Whether you did that or whether your kids do is immaterial to me. I think you're probably a good guy either way, and I wouldn't care either way because you're not my kid.

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Boys play with dolls, we just call them action figures.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

I understand people having a hesitancy in regards to a boy playing with Barbie and princess toys. A boy playing with a kitchen set sounds like classic leash.

I don't think any of you are bad parents.

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Peep's at it again stirring up shit.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Damn I might be gay.

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Fair. I shouldn't have used such a broad brush. There is a subgroup of Liberals who do this, but not all libs.

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Might be?

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I'm the most liberal poster on the board and even I won't be happy if my kid chooses to be a Cubs fan.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

one word: Legos

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

IIRC you may have an issue. Just allow him to be a Chicago fan.

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I was thinking more like a 3 1/2 pound of legos on ebay for $40

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

That was the one rule in my house. And I have well adjusted sons

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I actually have real world experience as the kid in that kind of exchange. I grew up on the North side and all of my friends were Cub fans. Also, the Cubs were decent at the time and the Sox were just fucking terrible. I wanted a Cub cap, but my dad said, "Why would you want that? The Cubs are losers." He just steered me the way he wanted me to go. I'm sure he would have done something similar had I expressed an interest in wearing lipstick.

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Why would Zippy or I have to explain why it would be okay for our hypothetical sons to wear women's clothes and make up or buy him Barbies? Why wouldn't it be? I wonder what your implication in asking that question is. He's a child. He's in a loving household with supportive parents. There's nothing wrong with it. Imaginative play with dolls is developmentally appropriate. Dress-up/costume play is literally putting on a another person's shoes. Fostering empathy, like if you choose to dress up like your mother, allows the child the opportunity to understand what it is she does for them. My daughter wears my clothes, she likes to try to match me. They sure don't fit, but she wants to look like daddy. She wants her hair long, like dad. At some point I'm sure she won't want to look like daddy, but if that doesn't happen, I'm a pretty snappy dresser. If little boys didn't put on make-up we'd never have KISS.

Like I said, am I supposed to not let my daughter cut her hair short, get involved in sports, play with Hot Wheels and Legos or any of the other things boys do? If you agree there's nothing wrong with letting my daughter do those things then are you saying it's okay to do some things that are against gender stereotypes/roles/whatever you want to call it? Is there some slippery slope then that's just too far to cross or you'll know it when you see it?

You were on a roll until you dropped the best counter argument to your argument.

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I did it in honor of lost poster kissfan73. Skypoint.

Could also rep Alice Cooper, Rob Zombie, or The Misfits

Will ignore Dee Snyder and Marilyn Manson.

Do you believe that there are two distinct genders?

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Also, sky point to kiss fan. Hope he's doing well. Always seemed like a great dude.

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There is definitely a push from the radical American Left for the embrace of Lysenkoist pseudo-science.

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Yes,I was a homophobe raising my son,so what?

I used to tease him about using a pink sippy cup ,let alone play with Barbies.

I feel it's natural to expect two heterosexual's to want to raise a heterosexual.

In the sensitive times we live in, we are supposed to be ashamed of that wish????

BULL.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

this would be the reason for the shift in "identity". like it was said, kids don't know who they are when they're that young. they're exploring, curious, trying to figure things out.

if a boy wants to wear a dress, in his mind he probably just finds something fun about it. the parents are the ones making a statement out of it.

You have to be careful. You could have a perfectly straight kid and make him gay with a toy choice or the wrong colored shirt.


Leash is a horrible person.

That's fairly easy to do 15-20 years ago when the cubs sucked.. Now, not so easy when all their buddy's are wearing cub hats n shirts.

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