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that's an unrealistic definition. in that instance anyone with a drive to succeed is a narcissist.


That type of ego has nothing to do with wanting to succeed. Being president is a thankless job that has very little actual power and each term ages you by 10 years.

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How come Democrats never bring up where Jimmy Carter announced his Presidential run?

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lot of idiot idealists out there that think they can change the world. doesn't make them narcissists.

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I don't think you would ever want to be or become president without being a narcissist. Same is true for becoming a 5 star general.


Ike acted from a sense of duty and commitment to country. He was made a 5 star due to the fact 1) Montgomery kept being a shit and pulling the rank card on him and 2) it was necessary due to the more narcissist likes of Patton and McArthur

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lot of idiot idealists out there that think they can change the world. doesn't make them narcissists.


The Russians.

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Jimmy Carter?



How come Democrats never bring up where Jimmy Carter announced his Presidential run?

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It's time the African American community has a "reality check" of why we have Donald Trump to begin with. First off, you threw all the eggs in the Hillary Clinton basket who distains blacks almost as much as Trump. BLM, for whatever reason, started attacking Bernie Sanders. Bernie fucking Sanders who was arrested for standing up for the black community, in the 1960's.

Point of order, Black Lives Matter supported Bernie after the incident you alluded to.

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Says a lot about the ignorance of the voting public doesn't it?



Yeah.

It's the Russians that made Hillary a narcissistic wench that clearly gives a shit for no one.


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It's time the African American community has a "reality check" of why we have Donald Trump to begin with. First off, you threw all the eggs in the Hillary Clinton basket who distains blacks almost as much as Trump. BLM, for whatever reason, started attacking Bernie Sanders. Bernie fucking Sanders who was arrested for standing up for the black community, in the 1960's. The 1960's people! I mean fuck, in the 60's even the most liberal of white's were pretty fucking racist. Then,

The Democrats are going to do better than "Trump sucks" as a platform for the next election you know..cause that's all they got.

Not sure about that but the voter turnout numbers in the community were an issue.


Not as bad as the % of majority women voters. Which is always ignored to continue to blame the Blacks. 8)

I think because of the turnout for Barry O. it was a little disappointing that it went right back down to unacceptable levels.

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I say this as a person who frequently takes hell in my community for telling immigrants and those one generation removed have an obligation to be mindful of this issue when voting.


I spent months trying to convince the under 40 blacks I knew to vote. It made sense they would be upset about Bernie but I assumed they would eventually get active because Trump was the alternative. Not only did the opposition intensify but they started subconsciously listing the president's talking points as reasons why they wouldn't vote for her. When it came out in October (IIRC) that Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC favored Hillary that was the final nail in the coffin.

The week before the election I made phone calls and started canvassing. At that point I started to believe that Hillary could lose. Even older black women weren't for her. MANY were just showing up to vote against Trump and the older black men just wanted Bill back. I'm pretty sure I posted about that experience here. You don't win elections when people aren't voting for you.

On Thanksgiving I discovered that I was just about the only person in my family that didn't vote for Trump. I was pissed. I wanted to blow the entire house up because of all of the stupidity and bigotry I heard that night. I can't recall the last time before then that I considered hitting someone out of frustration. My kids presence likely prevented that.

The president or the Russians did a helluva sales job on the community and apparently women too. Fake news works. I still can't believe that a community torn between Obama and Hillary in 2008 cast a higher percentage of votes for Trump than Republicans have gotten in decades.[/quote][/quote]
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It's mostly pointless to push political involvement for a presidential election in Illinois. The Democrats have New York, California and Illinois locked up every four years before anyone has cast a vote. The majority of geographic area in Illinois votes Republican, but no amount of voter turnout in the rural areas can break the Democratic stronghold.

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The majority of geographic area in Illinois votes Republican, but no amount of voter turnout in the rural areas can break the Democratic stronghold.

Guess it's a good thing it's one person, one vote and not one acre, one vote ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Is Trump pretty racist to a degree, yeah... but I don't think you for sure can say he's a white supremacist. It's almost as bad as comparing Obama to a Muslim terrorist. I get that Trump sucks, but at least show some restraint, especially if you are in a public facing position. Again, liberals/SJW's always want to have it both ways.


the bob is right. i don't know how to even have a conversation with someone who would make this claim. its an exaggerated absurdity.

espn has fired employees for less silly things. this just flys in the face of whether or not espn doesn't lean one way politically.


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Is Trump pretty racist to a degree, yeah... but I don't think you for sure can say he's a white supremacist. It's almost as bad as comparing Obama to a Muslim terrorist. I get that Trump sucks, but at least show some restraint, especially if you are in a public facing position. Again, liberals/SJW's always want to have it both ways.


the bob is right. i don't know how to even have a conversation with someone who would make this claim. its an exaggerated absurdity.

espn has fired employees for less more silly things. this just flys in the face of whether or not espn doesn't lean one way politically.
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and its absurd for the white house to say its fire-able. trump literally went on a which hunt basically accusing the sitting president as not even being a citizen of the US. its complete hypocrisy.


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Is Trump pretty racist to a degree, yeah... but I don't think you for sure can say he's a white supremacist. It's almost as bad as comparing Obama to a Muslim terrorist. I get that Trump sucks, but at least show some restraint, especially if you are in a public facing position. Again, liberals/SJW's always want to have it both ways.


the bob is right. i don't know how to even have a conversation with someone who would make this claim. its an exaggerated absurdity.

espn has fired employees for less more silly things. this just flys in the face of whether or not espn doesn't lean one way politically.
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and its absurd for the white house to say its fire-able. trump literally went on a which hunt basically accusing the sitting president as not even being a citizen of the US. its complete hypocrisy.


You mean he was aggressively seeking a word capable of functioning as an adjective or pronoun?

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I don't understand why your syntax skills would be any less effective while on the can.

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hnd wrote:
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Is Trump pretty racist to a degree, yeah... but I don't think you for sure can say he's a white supremacist. It's almost as bad as comparing Obama to a Muslim terrorist. I get that Trump sucks, but at least show some restraint, especially if you are in a public facing position. Again, liberals/SJW's always want to have it both ways.


the bob is right. i don't know how to even have a conversation with someone who would make this claim. its an exaggerated absurdity.


espn has fired employees for less silly things. this just flys in the face of whether or not espn doesn't lean one way politically.

Not really. It's a pretty reasonable statement based on how Trump has acted over the past 12-18 months.

Your last statement is wrong as well. If anything, this shows ESPN is committed to staying "neutral" on political things that aren't even partisan(many R's/conservatives say the same thing) such as "Trump is a terrible President, a bigot, and is unequivocally bad for our country"

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Is Trump pretty racist to a degree, yeah... but I don't think you for sure can say he's a white supremacist. It's almost as bad as comparing Obama to a Muslim terrorist. I get that Trump sucks, but at least show some restraint, especially if you are in a public facing position. Again, liberals/SJW's always want to have it both ways.


the bob is right. i don't know how to even have a conversation with someone who would make this claim. its an exaggerated absurdity.


espn has fired employees for less silly things. this just flys in the face of whether or not espn doesn't lean one way politically.

Not really. It's a pretty reasonable statement based on how Trump has acted over the past 12-18 months.

Your last statement is wrong as well. If anything, this shows ESPN is committed to staying "neutral" on political things that aren't even partisan(many R's/conservatives say the same thing) such as "Trump is a terrible President, a bigot, and is unequivocally bad for our country"


no its really not reasonable. its obvious that it may be impossible to convince you of this, but we've watered down the concept of white supremacy to a level where 1/2 the population are white supremacists if donald trump is.

and my last statement is not wrong. espn is in triage mode pretty much 100% of the time now. but that doesn't mean that its impossible to see that thay've treated conservative employees differently than progressive ones.


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hnd wrote:
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Is Trump pretty racist to a degree, yeah... but I don't think you for sure can say he's a white supremacist. It's almost as bad as comparing Obama to a Muslim terrorist. I get that Trump sucks, but at least show some restraint, especially if you are in a public facing position. Again, liberals/SJW's always want to have it both ways.


the bob is right. i don't know how to even have a conversation with someone who would make this claim. its an exaggerated absurdity.


espn has fired employees for less silly things. this just flys in the face of whether or not espn doesn't lean one way politically.

Not really. It's a pretty reasonable statement based on how Trump has acted over the past 12-18 months.

Your last statement is wrong as well. If anything, this shows ESPN is committed to staying "neutral" on political things that aren't even partisan(many R's/conservatives say the same thing) such as "Trump is a terrible President, a bigot, and is unequivocally bad for our country"


no its really not reasonable. its obvious that it may be impossible to convince you of this, but we've watered down the concept of white supremacy to a level where 1/2 the population are white supremacists if donald trump is.

and my last statement is not wrong. espn is in triage mode pretty much 100% of the time now. but that doesn't mean that its impossible to see that thay've treated conservative employees differently than progressive ones.

Wrong.

They just rehired noted racist Hank Williams Jr.

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we've watered down the concept of white supremacy to a level where 1/2 the population are white supremacists if donald trump is.

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no its really not reasonable. its obvious that it may be impossible to convince you of this, but we've watered down the concept of white supremacy to a level where 1/2 the population are white supremacists if donald trump is.

and my last statement is not wrong. espn is in triage mode pretty much 100% of the time now. but that doesn't mean that its impossible to see that thay've treated conservative employees differently than progressive ones.

It is reasonable. I have an open mind but you have to do better if you want to persuade me otherwise. What's the difference between thinking white people are better than everyone else and being a white supremacist? I think the former is a fairly obvious truth with regard to Trump, his actions, and his rhetoric.

In which way does ESPN treat liberal and conservative employees different? I cannot wait to hear your response.

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we've watered down the concept of white supremacy to a level where 1/2 the population are white supremacists if donald trump is.

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Yup.

People are way too quick to throw around those terms.

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we've watered down the concept of white supremacy to a level where 1/2 the population are white supremacists if donald trump is.

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Yup.

People are way too quick to throw around those terms.

I'm willing to admit I could be wrong(yeah, this is one of those unicorn moments), but what is the difference between thinking white people are better than everyone else and white supremacy?

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I can't believe she makes a mil. Just for that dumb talk show?

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we've watered down the concept of white supremacy to a level where 1/2 the population are white supremacists if donald trump is.

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I disagree. The word isn't used a lot. There's a lot of hypocrisy in the complaints too. I've found that people who do most of the complaining about labels like "racist" and "white supremacist" are generally quick to use similar labels to describe others.

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we've watered down the concept of white supremacy to a level where 1/2 the population are white supremacists if donald trump is.

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I disagree. The word isn't used a lot. There's a lot of hypocrisy in the complaints too. I've found that people who do most of the complaining about labels like "racist" and "white supremacist" are generally quick to use similar labels to describe others.

Yup, that's what my guy says too.

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