How do you spot them? Besides the folks who are loud and annoying people who hold these views aren't always easy to identify.

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GO BEARS!!!

google it and trump. pages upon pages of newspapers, blogsites, just bloviating on and on about the word. its the new "Nazi". there are no degrees of preference anymore, its all just white supremacy.

i haven't watched since tuesday, but has Jemele Hill been featured on "Doin' Too Much"? this is the type of thing that's a staple of that segment. that's a rhetorical question though...espn wouldn't do that.

By calling everyone a racist or white supremacist, it waters down the word.

What actual evidence is there that Donald Trump is a white supremacist?

He's ignorant, appalling, rude, and stupid, but let's ratchet back the constant accusations of white supremacy.

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You can call Donald Trump a racist. I'm with that. His racist tenancies along with all the other shitty parts of him makes me want him out of office ASAP. That right there is plenty. Throwing in "White Supremacist" is the unnecessary bat flip in a blow out game.

They dont all wear hoods and burn crosses


You never saw American History X?

Trump is like Cam.

Define white supremacist then

But you can't recognize how flawed that thinking is? A white supremacist is someone who thinks white people are superior to any others. I can't think of a rational defense for Trump not being one. It's ridiculous to suggest you should only criticize the most loud and hateful voices of a hateful movement.

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I think it is language that is weaponized to promote a particular political agenda. If you successfully brand someone a Nazi it's very difficult to defend them or their ideas.

With regard to Trump, I think he showed his true colors post-Charlottesville. And it isn't even that what he was saying was wrong had it been said a different way in a different context (and probably by a different person). But a woman who was peacefully protesting a bunch of racist douchebags was killed and you could tell Trump was identifying with the wrong side. At the very least he was being overly careful not to offend KKK members.

But the coverage also should not be immune to criticism. For example, some asshole runs a car into a crowd and he is used as the avatar for everyone to the right of Sarah Silverman. Nobody thinks that the asswipe who shot up Republicans at a softball game is representative of the American Left.

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Unless it's Islam.

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white su·prem·a·cy
noun
the belief that white people are superior to those of all other races, especially the black race, and should therefore dominate society.


Now what actual evidence is there that he believes that? Keep in mind you're talking to someone who loathes Trump.

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he's not that bright. more like seth.

What? What proof do you have that he is?

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Yes. I think many give Trump too much credit. He has no belief system. He's not smart enough to.

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I think the bold part is key. That is where thoughts get put into actions. Many of our grandparents probably believed that "their race was superior", that's just the truth. Where you cross the line is taking action.

He's more like the dad.

I'd hope others would jump in at this point for a more complete answer with sources, but his publicly documented action as a real estate owner, his campaign rhetoric of the last 12 months, the repeated dog whistles he has sent in that time, him retweeting actual white supremacists, his stance on publicly militarizing the police in minority communities, his immigration rhetoric and attempted actions. I mean... are you serious right now?

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I think Trump hates poor people and foreigners more than anything.

Basically you have no evidence. Good talk.

I'm not gonna continue to engage you in these type of arguments. When I somewhat-personalize it by mentioning veganfan you deflect and say he might be a mult for all you know. Unless you want to acknowledge he is a person, a Muslim, and a member of our community, I don't really feel like debating you when it comes to Islam any longer. We won't agree.

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So there are people who really believe Trump is someone who thinks white people should dominate society? Really?



Yes.



Yes.

He believes rich people should continue to dominate society. I don't think he gives a shit what color or nationality you are as long as you have money.

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So, what are the actual examples?

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You throw around the term "racist" and "bigot" way too freely. There are certainly people who qualify as those terms, but the primary purpose of those words in today's society is to just stop conversation and label people. It's dangerous to free thought/speech. I think it's partially a generational thing.

Donald Trump is abhorrent with the words he uses. That's his biggest problem. He's a moron. But a lot of his beliefs are shared by many other politicians. Someone awhile back posted a video of Obama saying illegal immigrants from Mexico brought in crime. Do you think Obama's racist?

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I would agree with that.

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I don't believe veganfan is a mult and I'd be happy to engage in a discussion on this topic with him. I'm not sure why you don't think Islam is a hateful, supremacist philosophy absent a single shred of evidence to the contrary.

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Retweeting white supremicists and refusing to apologize is extremely strong evidence, and it's not even close to the strongest evidence supporting the notion that Trump is a white supremicist, The fact that you think a racist person who is white and a white supremicist are different people immediately disqualifies any opinion of yours from serious conversation anyway. That's one of the dumbest things I've seen on this board recently.

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I think this is sort of right, but "hate" really isn't the right word. I think he's so far removed from poor people that they are like a different species to him. He does love their adulation though.

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Everybody's racist to varying degrees. It's part of the society we live in.

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I don't like Islam but I find any supremacist thought in it very minimal in regard to other religions. We have talked about our issues on this topic before and I'm confident we won't find common ground today. Any Muslim who doesn't believe in Muslim supremecy you compare to a Muslim who drinks alcohol and accuses them of not being a true believer in their faith. I have no interest in that type of debate.

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BTW, by being so cavalier about throwing around the term "white supremacist" you are marginalizing the plight of all who have actually suffered (physically/mentally) for hundreds of years at the hand of real "white supremacists".

Just say Trump is a racist prick and call it a day.