I almost never use "racist" because it implies power. (which is another reason Bob is wrong to say grandparents were racist, not supremacist. It's actually the opposite, they didnt have the power to be racist.)


I use prejudice usually. (admittedly, I have probably used racist in it's place mistakenly a few times)

Idk, I thought this interview was pretty racist.

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Again, this is beyond a bit. This has to be a joke.

I did. Your only defense seems to be that Trump didn't take actions to supress minority rights, which is patently untrue. Got anything else or are you gonna weakly lose in yet another argument you go yourself too deep into?

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I rarely, if ever use the phrase "white supremacist" in part because of the age in which I was raised that really didn't distinguish between overtly racist people and white supremacists. I really don't see the need.

But to the point of this thread, Trump surrounded himself with known bigots and supremacy advocates/supporters like Sessions, Bannon, Miller and that queer Russian/Ukrainian former adviser. To say birds of a feather flock together is a bit trite, but it's fairly clear that it's not that far off. You really are in large part what/who you you actively associate yourself with.

And please don't trot out the whorish excuse/rationale that he's an idiot opportunist with no moral compass. It's amazing to me how that is used to provide him undeserved cover in the same way "he's not a politician" still ocassionally is. Yet another bullshit excuse to benefit a wealthy, amoral jackass always looking to escape personal responsibility for his typical heinous actions and by extension, those of his enablers.

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Again, this is beyond a bit. This has to be a joke.[/quote]

A joke is your inability to use quotes correctly on this site.

Can't do it man. You sound like every other person excusing an abusive white cop. I already acknowledged in that thread though that he may not be racist and instead might just be a violent sociopath.

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I agree that throwing around all types of labels unnecessarily is dumb and usually done to end an argument. For a while I argued here and other places that I didn't believe Trump was racist. I thought he was dog whistling (with a bullhorn) to appeal to a group of people in order to get elected or to sell crap to. I understood why LTG and others disagreed with me. My issue wasn't that you don't believe the president is racist or a white supremacist. My issue was that you don't understand how reasonable people could believe that he is.

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GO BEARS!!!

His real estate deals targeted low income people. He hates the poor. He's a peace of shit. We've established that. Strike 2...

There's the 'L' flag


Dont worry, I'm not judging you and I don't think you should think any differently of your grandparents. But their belief system on race was one of white supremacy and that is an inexcusable stance.

Do you really want me to post links proving you are wrong about who he targeted? I can do that, if you want. Let me know. Otherwise, just concede.

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You're spinning out of control, now.

We should dig them all out of their graves and shit on them.

Ten points for correct execution with the "quote" feature!

He's actually gotten way better on the "typo in every post" thing. Had me rethinking if he was actually a mult or not. Usually you don't see a drastic change like that.

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semantics.

if bob doesn't staple the forms but sally, joe, and jim do and you make a memo that tells EVERYONE to make sure and staple the forms, you are basically telling to bob to staple the forms but ARE including everyone unnecessarily.

in this example, mexicans, arabs, whiites, blacks, and their food cultures are not the problem. there are probably other reasons you wouldnt' rent to each one of those races (ie whites - couches on the lawn) but ultimately you are trying to make sure the indian race can't rent your homes with a rule regarding spices.

You have either assumed something that's not there or spun into something Im not getting.

No strong food odors of any kind will be tolerated. It's very simple.

You understand white people eat Currie too? They are also out on their ass if im in charge.

These types of posts are very fucking annoying, IMO. I'm sure you can find a whole bunch of pros/cons of each race if you wanted to try hard enough and convinced yourself they were different enough. It's really not that hard to NOT make excuses for racist behavior and/or rhetoric.

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After a cursory review, the only salient post I recall seeing was JORR's however many pages ago, with which Nas said he (essentially) agreed with.

Otherwise, this more or less is a bunch of people thinking they're a surgeon of semantics when instead it's more like Michael J. Fox cutting grilled al dente asparagus with a butter knife from some old woman's rummage sale.

Take a break for lunch or heroin or something.

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Read closer and come back.

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Don't do it Don! He's going to ask again, regardless.

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His company was long known to refuse to rent to blacks. Former employees long ago noted that it was a hard and fast rule of the Trump Organization. The consent decree he & his father agreed to came after tester tenants were sent in to document the treatment they received solely by virtue of their race. Often being told that there were no places for rent, but later those same days white testers found a variety available.

I just also find it funny that his family became wealthy by virtue of federal housing projects, like Paul Ryan's family became rich behind concrete contracts in federal infrastructure projects, yet each turns their noses up at the very mention of those federal programs and the people who also benefit from them.

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Yea, lazy take here. Read closer.


Nothing semantic about saying "thinking the white race is superior = white supremacist belief"

Right. I find this thread to be a little bizarre.

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My dad came to the US in the mid-50s, was able to start a business after a few years, was a leader in hiring blacks downtown and putting them in visible service positions, gave his cooks leeway to add southern items like grits to the menu and developed a tremendous following of black customers including business and political leaders for 35 years. All for civil rights and equality of opportunity, but very harsh on crime and against wide-spread welfare for the able-bodied/minded ("hey, I had $75 when I got here and I spent that on a suit. Nobody offered me welfare.")

The head of the Greek Orthodox Church in North America was on the iconic LIFE magazine photo with Dr. King. I was taught that as a little kid, that what happened with Jim Crow was wrong.

But when I dated a black woman for about nine months last year and early this year, he absolutely and totally lost his shit.

My dad couldn't bring himself to vote for Donald Trump. Not because he thought Trump was a racist or a white supremacist. But because he thought that Trump was a disrespectful moron.

This whole thing is so layered. And reducing it to 15 second sound bites and 140 character generalizations just makes the idiots emboldened to think that they understand the nuances.

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so if i make a rule that says that you are not allowed to wash jerry curl hair oil down the shower drains in my homes, that makes me super inclusive because i realize that there are white people who also use jerry curl oil too i'm sure.

It's not a particularly revelatory point. It's on the same level as 'Friday comes after Thursday every single week'.

If someone actually disagrees with that your or my example, they're either irretrievably stupid or are unapologetically trolling ... either way, only a dope would spend this much time attempting to 'convince' them of an obvious point.

Find something else to post about; this bores me.

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