I'm pretty sure back then, many black families would have been uneasy about someone dating/marrying a white person as well. Believe it or not, it goes beyond basic racism and into anthropological/cultural topics that are clearly above your head...or at the very least not something you want to even consider. It's much easier for you to paint with a broad brush. I actually pity you in a way.

Poor leash. So far gone he can't even recognize when his own mult is breaking bad on him.

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Really?

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It's never a good one. Almost always they eventually love the person and their kids. They don't usually see this as some evolution away from their ignorance. They just believe that person is "different".

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GO BEARS!!!

Id love my daughter if she killed 40 people, but I couldn't make the argument she wasn't a murderer.


I loved my grandpa very much. He used to literally throw out fake stats (ivented fake news possibly).

"97% of all crimes are committed by the blacks" was a famous quote of his.

He was a good man in many ways, just not in that way. He was prejudice and held the belief that white people were superior. I dont find it difficult to admit that or the need to dress it up or excuse it.

I understand why some do feel the need, but that doesnt change the reality of their belief system.

Really.

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Labels- left

Binary- Right



Neither myself or FF has made any claim or moral perfection.

There is a huge difference between making a joke based on racial stereotypes and literally thinking one race is superior. (I know you know that)


So I dont really think it's hypocritical. Nobody is perfect, but most of us dont literally think skin color makes us "better"

Because he is saying and doing all sorts of stupid things in the name of political expediency. He is simply pandering. I don't believe that makes him a white supremacist. He may in fact be one, but it's not like he is trying to recreate segregation or ban interracial marriage, which would be the hallmark policies of a supremacist.

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Dennis on the $$$. Bingo.

He was certainly trying to recreate segregation as a landlord.

Aside from that, I find this entire argument wholly unconvincing. "He's not racist, he's just acting like it to win something". We didn't buy that bullshit when Elmhurst Steve presented it several years ago and I'd like to think most of us aren't buying it now.

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The question "Is ______ racist?" is just an overly simplistic one. If he's a human being, then yes, he's racist to some degree.

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I'm not saying that he is. I'm not saying that what you believe isn't true. I don't just understand how you and others can't see how a reasonable person would believe that he is.

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FavreFan's attacks on us(for not attacking Trump harsh enough) read like a Julie DiCaro twitter timeline.

Once again, that's not the argument, because we aren't talking about ______. We are talking about the fucking President of the United States, and we are detailing how he is prejudicial in a very public way. How can you claim to be concerned with the integrity of the office (90% of your criticism of Trump since November is on this topic) yet completely ignore that?

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And those black families would get the same label as the white ones.

Was covered brilliantly on All in the Family


Do you really think this fake intellectual pondering is going to save your terrible opinion?

No one denies or has even argued about the root cause of the beliefs, we are talking about the actual beliefs themselves.

And cultural history is not an excuse. If it were you'd have to excuse rapists and murderers, too.

I hate minorities.

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Nope. Nice try though. Just fade away like you always do when losing a debate or actually come with something of substance. Until that time, I'll just assume leash is the alpha in your relationship and is speaking for you.

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WRONG.

It's a cultural thing and over your head.

He is, but not on this message board.

Did you mean binary? Yes or no?

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Rpb doing work here. Too bad he's against freedom of speech and innocent until proven guilty(all those regressive leftists are)

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LOL at Bob using "US". So desperate to have anyone jump on this ignorant take with him.

Yeah Julie, our old school grandparents that didn't know any better where just like rapists and murderers. Keep it up with that brush, Jules.

I gotta ask, who is the "Alpha" and "Beta" in your relationship?

I honestly havent seen anyone have a thread this bad in years.

This one will go down in the books.

Caller Bob putting in work in this thread

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Your grand-kids are going to judge your terrible performance here.

The only thing that is actually baffling to me is leash and Bob criticize Trump constantly on here(unlike Bob, I recall what I read and won't label him based on one thread). Bob further acknowledges he is racist but not a supremacist. When pressed for the difference, Bob says supremacists will enforce power to promote racist views. I'm still struggling to see how that doesn't completely fall in line with Trump as a private businessman and politician. The whole thread is strange to me. It would make much more sense if you replaced leash and Bob with JLN and Chas. I also don't want that to come off as a partisan thing. I'm just confused at how someone can think someone is prejudiced but not supremacist although they are in the most powerful position on Earth.

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First you attack Bob's grandma and now you resort to this hyperbole? You used to be a good guy.

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