It is currently Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:28 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 134 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Cubs @ Joe's Old Team
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:10 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:22 pm
Posts: 24524
pizza_Place: It's gone
Rays will honor Joe Maddon in the first game of the series.

Probable pitchers :

First game
Montgomery vs Archer

Second Game
Lester Vs Snell


Not sure why Monty is starting again. I thought he went back to the pen after his last start.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:29 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:07 pm
Posts: 7929
Location: A large oak tree.
pizza_Place: Nowhere
Arietta not ready to go most likely. Don't want Jen Ho to pitch again. Not a lot of choices.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:33 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:54 am
Posts: 22704
pizza_Place: A few...
Hoping for a split.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:46 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:05 am
Posts: 25181
Location: Cultural Mecca
pizza_Place: Pequod's / Barnaby's
Drunk Squirrel wrote:
Arietta not ready to go most likely. Don't want Jen Ho to pitch again. Not a lot of choices.

Arrieta is pitching Sunday?

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:51 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:07 pm
Posts: 7929
Location: A large oak tree.
pizza_Place: Nowhere
I didn't hear how his second time throwing off mound went but I would assume if there were no set backs he pitches in Milwaukee. Whether that's a good idea or not who knows.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:05 am
Posts: 25181
Location: Cultural Mecca
pizza_Place: Pequod's / Barnaby's
Drunk Squirrel wrote:
I didn't hear how his second time throwing off mound went but I would assume if there were no set backs he pitches in Milwaukee. Whether that's a good idea or not who knows.

GREAT idea.

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:00 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:07 pm
Posts: 7929
Location: A large oak tree.
pizza_Place: Nowhere
It would not stun me to see him pitch Thursday as that lines him up for a cardinals game too.


Last edited by Drunk Squirrel on Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:09 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:07 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:10 pm
Posts: 6774
Would be nice to wrap this thing up possibly this weekend, or in the 1st or 2nd Cardinal game.

_________________
Fuck Edwards and Zobrist


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:10 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
He is listed on ESPN as starting Sunday.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:12 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:07 pm
Posts: 7929
Location: A large oak tree.
pizza_Place: Nowhere
MLB.com still has the entire series as TBD. He slots into Sunday though in Monty's place.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:23 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:05 am
Posts: 25181
Location: Cultural Mecca
pizza_Place: Pequod's / Barnaby's
Drunk Squirrel wrote:
It would not stun me to see him pitch Thursday as that lines him up for a cardinals game too.

The Cardinals are done. Lester was moved so that he doesn't have to deal with the Brewers running game and so that he pitches against the Cardinals, which he does very well again.

But outside of that, I don't see the need for the Cubs to make any moves in order to "counter" the Cardinals. If the Cardinals are in play for the division by the time they see the Cubs, it means that the Brewers swept the Cubs this weekend. The Cubs simply splitting the next 2 series would all but lock up the division in my eyes.

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:32 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:43 pm
Posts: 2609
pizza_Place: Lucio's
If they lose tonight to Archer and MIL wins, lead will be down to 2.5 games.

This division is still very much up in the air...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:48 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:05 am
Posts: 25181
Location: Cultural Mecca
pizza_Place: Pequod's / Barnaby's
'77Cubs wrote:
If they lose tonight to Archer and MIL wins, lead will be down to 2.5 games.

This division is still very much up in the air...

No one is arguing that, as long as you mean in the air between the Cubs and the Brewers.

But if the Cubs split with TB and MIL, the magic number for the Cubs with Milwaukee is at worst 5 with both the Brewers and the Cardinals. And the Cubs then have 7 games left with the Cardinals (let's call that a split) and the Reds (should be a series win for the Cubs.) That last series also has the Brewers playing the Cardinals. The Cubs are firmly in the driver seat.

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
No Bryant tonight

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
IMU wrote:
'77Cubs wrote:
If they lose tonight to Archer and MIL wins, lead will be down to 2.5 games.

This division is still very much up in the air...

No one is arguing that, as long as you mean in the air between the Cubs and the Brewers.

But if the Cubs split with TB and MIL, the magic number for the Cubs with Milwaukee is at worst 5 with both the Brewers and the Cardinals. And the Cubs then have 7 games left with the Cardinals (let's call that a split) and the Reds (should be a series win for the Cubs.) That last series also has the Brewers playing the Cardinals. The Cubs are firmly in the driver seat.

Yea, I think to simplify it more. The Cards are 6 back with 13 to play. 4 of those 13 days they cant gain anything (either Brewers or Cubs will win)

So they essentially have 9 days to make up 6 games.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:23 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:02 pm
Posts: 11735
pizza_Place: Angelo's Pizza in Downers Grove
MVP needs to play every day until the division is won. C'mon, Joe!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:43 pm
Posts: 2609
pizza_Place: Lucio's
rogers park bryan wrote:
IMU wrote:
'77Cubs wrote:
If they lose tonight to Archer and MIL wins, lead will be down to 2.5 games.

This division is still very much up in the air...

No one is arguing that, as long as you mean in the air between the Cubs and the Brewers.

But if the Cubs split with TB and MIL, the magic number for the Cubs with Milwaukee is at worst 5 with both the Brewers and the Cardinals. And the Cubs then have 7 games left with the Cardinals (let's call that a split) and the Reds (should be a series win for the Cubs.) That last series also has the Brewers playing the Cardinals. The Cubs are firmly in the driver seat.

Yea, I think to simplify it more. The Cards are 6 back with 13 to play. 4 of those 13 days they cant gain anything (either Brewers or Cubs will win)

So they essentially have 9 days to make up 6 games.


Cards are toast. My concern is MIL who play the Cubs tough. Gonna be a tense 2 weeks. Hopefully they rise to the occasion.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:05 am
Posts: 25181
Location: Cultural Mecca
pizza_Place: Pequod's / Barnaby's
'77Cubs wrote:
If they lose tonight to Archer and MIL wins, lead will be down to 2.5 games.

Also, why are we so worried about Chris Archer? If Quintana is looked down upon, then Archer is worse. Worse career record, worse career ERA.

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:43 pm
Posts: 2609
pizza_Place: Lucio's
IMU wrote:
'77Cubs wrote:
If they lose tonight to Archer and MIL wins, lead will be down to 2.5 games.

Also, why are we so worried about Chris Archer? If Quintana is looked down upon, then Archer is worse. Worse career record, worse career ERA.


Archer is tough and can easily spin 7 shutout innings...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 42094
Location: Rock Ridge (splendid!)
pizza_Place: Charlie Fox's / Paisano's
Why are the honoring Joe?

_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:59 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 42094
Location: Rock Ridge (splendid!)
pizza_Place: Charlie Fox's / Paisano's
Wait a minute .... Javy @ 3B?

_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:05 am
Posts: 25181
Location: Cultural Mecca
pizza_Place: Pequod's / Barnaby's
Don Tiny wrote:
Wait a minute .... Javy @ 3B?

Addy has essentially replaced Bryant in the lineup.

Thanks Joe.

What are the Rays honoring him for? Throwing two games?

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:05 am
Posts: 25181
Location: Cultural Mecca
pizza_Place: Pequod's / Barnaby's
I prefer my manager NOT rest the defending MVP the day after an off-day, as we approach the finish line of a fairly tight division race. Call me crazy.

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:02 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 42094
Location: Rock Ridge (splendid!)
pizza_Place: Charlie Fox's / Paisano's
Apparently Javy's started 45 career games @ 3rd ... didn't recall that ... 468 2/3 innings in total (including non-starts).

_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:07 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:05 am
Posts: 25181
Location: Cultural Mecca
pizza_Place: Pequod's / Barnaby's
Don Tiny wrote:
Apparently Javy's started 45 career games @ 3rd ... didn't recall that ... 468 2/3 innings in total (including non-starts).

Last year he was the starting 3B when Bryant played the outfield. That was the whole joke about Baez should have won 3 GG's last year.

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:05 am
Posts: 25181
Location: Cultural Mecca
pizza_Place: Pequod's / Barnaby's
'77Cubs wrote:
IMU wrote:
'77Cubs wrote:
If they lose tonight to Archer and MIL wins, lead will be down to 2.5 games.

Also, why are we so worried about Chris Archer? If Quintana is looked down upon, then Archer is worse. Worse career record, worse career ERA.


Archer is tough and can easily spin 7 shutout innings...

Sure, as he did once this year. In his only start where he didn't give up a single earned run.

ALSO, last year Archer only had 4 starts where he gave up 0 ER, and only one of those was 7+ innings.

So in two full seasons and 34 starts, Archer has given up 0 ER and gone 7+ twice.

John Lackey has done that four times in the past two seasons, and had two other starts of 0 ER and 6.2 IP.

_________________
Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.


Last edited by IMU on Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Yea, dont think he goes 7. They've been easing him back since the injury. 3 and 4 inning starts in his last 2.

Lots of pitches in both. That plays right into the Cubs hands but its baseball so ya know...who knows.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:43 pm
Posts: 2609
pizza_Place: Lucio's
IMU wrote:
'77Cubs wrote:
IMU wrote:
'77Cubs wrote:
If they lose tonight to Archer and MIL wins, lead will be down to 2.5 games.

Also, why are we so worried about Chris Archer? If Quintana is looked down upon, then Archer is worse. Worse career record, worse career ERA.


Archer is tough and can easily spin 7 shutout innings...

Sure, as he did once this year. In his only start where he didn't give up a single earned run.

ALSO, last year Archer only had 4 starts where he gave up 0 ER, and only one of those was 7+ innings.

So in two full seasons and 34 starts, Archer has given up 0 ER and gone 7+ twice.

John Lackey has done that four times in the past two seasons, and had two other starts of 0 ER and 6.2 IP.


Hope this proves prophetic and we get to him. It just seems everyone thinks this division title is a given and IMO it's not.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Of course it's not.

A 4 game lead with 4 games left with the team chasing you at their home park. Under no circumstances would anyone with a brain call this locked up.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:34 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 11:10 am
Posts: 42094
Location: Rock Ridge (splendid!)
pizza_Place: Charlie Fox's / Paisano's
rogers park bryan wrote:
Of course it's not.

A 4 game lead with 4 games left with the team chasing you at their home park. Under no circumstances would anyone with a brain call this locked up.

Exactly ... point us towards the folks that are saying it's over, it's all over, '77.

_________________
Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 134 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 39 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group