yeah, incitement and so forth. the things that are never really protected, whether the court tends to the liberal or conservative.

On the other hand....

Nazis are different, but it is hard to imagine why someone walking around in public in KKK regalia is not considered a threat, given the context of American history. Maybe it is because the KKK doesn't (as far as I know) lynch people any longer. I don't know.

well, i'm not an etc., but the courts seem to uphold the first amendment and are pretty clear about what rights we don't have. i think. (????)

as far as ethics, that's different.

I think that's the big distinction here. I guess a Nazi could walk around not being a "threat" but pretty much any speech by a Nazi about being a Nazi is a threat.

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Airing abhorrent views is not the same as creating a reasonable fear of imminent lawlessness, come on.

People advocate for bad shit to befall people all the time, and we regard it as political speech. Look at all the stuff about wishing Trump death or assassination, the BLM protesters with their "all the good cops I know are the dead ones" signs at protests. Look at Ogie here call for the murder of police officers whenever his childish anger issues consume him. None of them are actually threats, but all are protected speech.

I think the true test for this would be an Islamic Extremist screaming death to infidels inside Penn station.

Yep.

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Correct. Simply spouting off Nazi principles is not a threat. The burden for "incitement" should - rightly - be an extremely high one.

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Might have to be outside on the sidewalk as I assume Penn Station is private property?

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All Nazi's should be killed.

Yup.

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See? Not a threat. Protected speech.

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The problem isnt one punch. No one (besides JLN) feels bad for Nazis who get hit but this is becoming a thing on the left.

Punching people is justified if their ideas/beliefs are abhorrent? Who draws that line? And dont say it's just Nazis because it's not, people (Antifa and their fans) want to get violent with anyone they deem "hateful" that is a dangerous road to go down.




Kidding JLN

It's not a left or right thing JORR. MANY people believe that it is okay to punch someone who pisses you off.

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I agree, Douchebag. Plenty of Trump supporters thought it was OK to get violent with people for having differing political views. Thing is I think advocating punching Nazis gets a pass because everyone is so afraid to be seen as defending Nazism.

I completely understand the emotion involved in wanting to punch Nazis, but that's not how our society operates, nor should it. If a person does it, they should be arrested.

Aside from the obvious free speech argument, what ever happened to just ignoring people?

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It doesn't help when there are so many people willing to label someone a Nazi. It gets similar play to "racist" or "bigot."

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No it doesn't. It's not even close. In fact white supremacist is WAY ahead of it.

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It's absolutely a thing right now with extreme leftists. It never was before. Im not really concerned with the other side.

we just had a big thread here were MANY said racists and white supremacists were the same thing. and we know white supremacists and Nazis are the same thing. so......

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Let's say we didn't...

Punch whitey! There ya have it. Its right there for ya.

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All people get compared to the Jordan of Nazis but very few people call someone a Nazi.

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Fascists buy shoes too!

Agreed, because we really didnt.

People want to use their own personal definitions for these terms but they are what they are. Racism requires power. White Supremacy actions and White supremacist beliefs/Bigotry do not.