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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:21 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

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rogers park bryan wrote:

I think the true test for this would be an Islamic Extremist screaming death to infidels inside Penn station.

I have no problems with someone punching that guy too.

I dont have a problem with any singular incident really, but if this becomes the way we deal with things, its problematic.

I agree. It's not even close to being near that level yet though. Antifa is awful but it's a bad idea to pretend their views have gone mainstream.

Scenario for you: A Nazi in the full nazi get up is in public yelling a bunch of hateful nazi shit. A CFMBer runs up and punches him out, and then runs away. You turning the CFMBer in?

It's simple: doxx them.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:22 pm

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Hatchetman wrote:

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leashyourkids wrote:

Shakes needs a safe space.

I can think of one ... a large, very warm one.

your lap?

Nice.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:23 pm

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

I think the true test for this would be an Islamic Extremist screaming death to infidels inside Penn station.

I have no problems with someone punching that guy too.

I dont have a problem with any singular incident really, but if this becomes the way we deal with things, its problematic.

People will inevitably have different ideas of where the JUSTIFIABLY PUNCHABLE line is.

Just like with the cops, do whatever you need to as long as you "fear for your safety". Right JLN?

You know that the qualifier in these situations is "reasonable". Saying you fear for your safety because of an arm band or overt political affiliation is most assuredly unreasonable.

If the political affiliation's mantra is literally DEATH TO (insert group of people) it's absolutely a reasonable fear to the targeted group.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:23 pm

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Scenario for you: A Nazi in the full nazi get up is in public yelling a bunch of hateful nazi shit. A CFMBer runs up and punches him out, and then runs away. You turning the CFMBer in?

It's simple: doxx them.

You're very clever.

We know you're turning the guy in. But it's a serious question to guys like rpb, leash, dolphin, and others who are very alarmed about the rising intolerance of intolerance by the left.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:24 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Scenario for you: A Nazi in the full nazi get up is in public yelling a bunch of hateful nazi shit. A CFMBer runs up and punches him out, and then runs away. You turning the CFMBer in?

It's simple: doxx them.

Of course I'm not, but I would hope that if he was caught, he would be punished.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:25 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Scenario for you: A Nazi in the full nazi get up is in public yelling a bunch of hateful nazi shit. A CFMBer runs up and punches him out, and then runs away. You turning the CFMBer in?

It's simple: doxx them.

Of course I'm not, but I would hope that if he was caught, he would be punished.

Would you really *hope* that? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't give the situation a second thought later on.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:26 pm

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I wouldn't turn him in but this whole "punch a Nazi" thing is going mainstream. (or maybe I just follow too many extreme types on Twitter) and I just dont trust them to stop there.

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leashyourkids

Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:29 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Scenario for you: A Nazi in the full nazi get up is in public yelling a bunch of hateful nazi shit. A CFMBer runs up and punches him out, and then runs away. You turning the CFMBer in?

It's simple: doxx them.

Of course I'm not, but I would hope that if he was caught, he would be punished.

Would you really *hope* that? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't give the situation a second thought later on.

You're misinterpreting my emphasis of the word "hope."

I just don't want to live in a society where we justify violence because of certain types of speech.

In the words of FF, it's really not that complicated.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:30 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

shakes wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

I think the true test for this would be an Islamic Extremist screaming death to infidels inside Penn station.

I have no problems with someone punching that guy too.

Do I need to remind everyone again of the "Nazi Exception/exemption"? It's a pretty clear rule.

I would say you will have to, because it wont always be a Nazi. It'll be some oppressor labeled a shitlord by a Quad City Pat type.

I don't understand? the Nazi Exception is pretty clear in that it only applies to Nazis. They're not really hard to pick out of a crowd, the armband is usually a dead giveaway.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:31 pm

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It's good to learn who the snitches are ahead of time so you can dig a deeper hole.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:32 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

I just don't want to live in a society where we justify violence because of certain types of speech.

I don't want to live in a society with Nazis. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:33 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

I just don't want to live in a society where we justify violence because of certain types of speech.

I don't want to live in a society with Nazis. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

Are you being serious with this response?

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:34 pm

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shakes wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

shakes wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

I think the true test for this would be an Islamic Extremist screaming death to infidels inside Penn station.

I have no problems with someone punching that guy too.

Do I need to remind everyone again of the "Nazi Exception/exemption"? It's a pretty clear rule.

I would say you will have to, because it wont always be a Nazi. It'll be some oppressor labeled a shitlord by a Quad City Pat type.

I don't understand? the Nazi Exception is pretty clear in that it only applies to Nazis. They're not really hard to pick out of a crowd, the armband is usually a dead giveaway.

Is it just me or has no one else ever heard of the "Nazi exemption"?

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:36 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

Is it just me or has no one else ever heard of the "Nazi exemption"?

What Hebrew school did you attend?

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:37 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

I just don't want to live in a society where we justify violence because of certain types of speech.

I don't want to live in a society with Nazis. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

Are you being serious with this response?

Half serious. You already live in a society that justifies violence based on certain types of speech. I guess you mean legally, but if that's the case I don't see that really becoming an issue any time soon.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:39 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

I just don't want to live in a society where we justify violence because of certain types of speech.

I don't want to live in a society with Nazis. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

Are you being serious with this response?

Of course I mean legally.

And I would MUCH rather live in a society that has people who call themselves "Nazis" than in a society who tries not to allow those people to speak.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:39 pm

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shakes wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

Is it just me or has no one else ever heard of the "Nazi exemption"?

What Hebrew school did you attend?

Your Hebrew teachers lied to you.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:41 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

And I would MUCH rather live in a society that has people who call themselves "Nazis" than in a society who tries not to allow those people to speak.

That's understandable.

I don't mind living in a society where acting like an obscene asshole in public will occasionally be greeted with a punch. The Nazi will be fine. Maybe he'll tone his act down some next time.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:42 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

I just don't want to live in a society where we justify violence because of certain types of speech.

I don't want to live in a society with Nazis. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

Are you being serious with this response?

Of course I mean legally.

And I would MUCH rather live in a society that has people who call themselves "Nazis" than in a society who tries not to allow those people to speak.

But they'll make your kids Nazis

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:44 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

And I would MUCH rather live in a society that has people who call themselves "Nazis" than in a society who tries not to allow those people to speak.

That's fine as long as you don't mind that that person who committed the physical violence not be given any legal cover simply because he punched someone who most of us don't like. The laws that punish his physical violence are the same laws that would punish the Nazi if his actions ever went beyond words.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:45 pm

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Nas wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

I just don't want to live in a society where we justify violence because of certain types of speech.

I don't want to live in a society with Nazis. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

Are you being serious with this response?

Of course I mean legally.

And I would MUCH rather live in a society that has people who call themselves "Nazis" than in a society who tries not to allow those people to speak.

But they'll make your kids Nazis

My children will be born Nazis. You know that.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:46 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

And I would MUCH rather live in a society that has people who call themselves "Nazis" than in a society who tries not to allow those people to speak.

Sure. Most of this is all theoretical anyway. My guess is 99.9% of punches don't end up in arrests.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:48 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

And I would MUCH rather live in a society that has people who call themselves "Nazis" than in a society who tries not to allow those people to speak.

Sure. Most of this is all theoretical anyway. My guess is 99.9% of punches don't end up in arrests.

Just like rapes.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

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FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

And I would MUCH rather live in a society that has people who call themselves "Nazis" than in a society who tries not to allow those people to speak.

Sure. Most of this is all theoretical anyway. My guess is 99.9% of punches don't end up in arrests.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:51 pm

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To change the subject, do we still think that segregation laws are unneeded in modern times?

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:53 pm

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leashyourkids wrote:

Is it just me or has no one else ever heard of the "Nazi exemption"?

It's not a thing. Shakes, aren't you a yenrotta?

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:54 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

To change the subject, do we still think that segregation laws are unneeded in modern times?

Wow, pretty racist question.

Look at Rick trying to summon back Jim Crow laws.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:54 pm

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not to change the subject, but who here has ever met or seen a real life Nazi?

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:55 pm

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

To change the subject, do we still think that segregation laws are unneeded in modern times?

Maybe, but please get rid of the miscegenation laws. If I ever get unmarried, I have some miscegnating to do.

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Post subject: Re: Seattle Nazi-Puncher

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:55 pm

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Hatchetman wrote:

not to change the subject, but who here has ever met or seen a real life Nazi?

If I can add on to your question... Why is this worse now than in the last 50 years?

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