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Big pharma will use every bit of it's power to destroy this notion.


Worse yet, suburban moms will turn pot treatment into a pyramid scheme like '31' or 'keytones'


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Very old news, like 12 years late.

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Bp been doing that for half a century... Me ..personally have gotten half a dozen opiate junkies off pills ( not smack) only Vicodin - oxy off that poison with medibles .

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I'm going to need to be on opioids next month because I'm having open heart surgery and they're going to have to slice my breastbone open. The only other times I've been given Vicodin I've only had to take them for a day or two. This is likely to be a couple of weeks. My medical group appears to be against medical marijuana (probably due to being leaned on by BP), but if I'm still on any painkillers after 10 days I'm certainly going to bring up the question.

My mom went through the oxycontin/oxycodin/morphine/really heavy stuff when she was in hospice. I was able to see how she outgrew each level after a few doses. But there, nobody had to worry about addiction.

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I'm going to need to be on opioids next month because I'm having open heart surgery and they're going to have to slice my breastbone open. The only other times I've been given Vicodin I've only had to take them for a day or two. This is likely to be a couple of weeks. My medical group appears to be against medical marijuana (probably due to being leaned on by BP), but if I'm still on any painkillers after 10 days I'm certainly going to bring up the question.

My mom went through the oxycontin/oxycodin/morphine/really heavy stuff when she was in hospice. I was able to see how she outgrew each level after a few doses. But there, nobody had to worry about addiction.


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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
I'm going to need to be on opioids next month because I'm having open heart surgery and they're going to have to slice my breastbone open. The only other times I've been given Vicodin I've only had to take them for a day or two. This is likely to be a couple of weeks. My medical group appears to be against medical marijuana (probably due to being leaned on by BP), but if I'm still on any painkillers after 10 days I'm certainly going to bring up the question.

My mom went through the oxycontin/oxycodin/morphine/really heavy stuff when she was in hospice. I was able to see how she outgrew each level after a few doses. But there, nobody had to worry about addiction.


Good luck with that. I think you're justified popping a few after that. :wink:

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
I'm going to need to be on opioids next month because I'm having open heart surgery and they're going to have to slice my breastbone open. The only other times I've been given Vicodin I've only had to take them for a day or two. This is likely to be a couple of weeks. My medical group appears to be against medical marijuana (probably due to being leaned on by BP), but if I'm still on any painkillers after 10 days I'm certainly going to bring up the question.


That sounds awful. I hope everything works out for you. When you get your painkillers, you should alternate taking the Rx and an over the counter pain reliever like Motrin or Aleve each time. Those opiates are powerful stuff. It sounds like you will be facing a long recovery. If you can cut the opiates in half, that is a good thing.

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I've always described the sensation of smoking weed as having a 90 degree perspective shift in terms of how you see/perceive/interface-with the world, and as such I've found that if you aren't smoking a lot to where s little goes a long way, that wake-bake style 90 degree perspective shift can do some good things in terms of helping you see the big/ger picture with opiates/withdrawal (I.e. Seeing beyond the opiate/withdrawal cycle in the forefront)

THAT SAID, when getting bliznaizknowed (stoned) you gets you more attentive/perceptive/etc it's also easier to realize "hey I'm technically not feeling 100.0% good -proper off of [whatever]" so sometimes you have a tendency to reach for a little something, be it an opiate swap out like methadone or Suboxone or perhaps even a "smaller than usual" dose of opiates to help step yourself down "one day at a time" --- file this under "double edged sword" cuz that added perspective to help you see past your immediate day-to-day chemicality will also help you realize "hey maybe I'm a little worse off today than I thought" --- but even then you tend to keep sight of the big/get picture of what you need/ought to do and you tend to be way more practical than hedonist.

So yeah, weed won't help you with the physical comedown at all (seeing as withdrawal = your body realizing it's not gonna get its "vitamin" to [release-the-floodgates to wring-the-washcloth] of dopamine/endorphins/etc so it takes a few days for your body to start producing that at normal levels, as opiate withdrawal is technically feeling the aches and pains of everyday life without the usual levels of dopamine (painkiller/pleasure hormone that your body releases when like, say, slap your face really hard and notice how the pain starts to subside within a few seconds? Well that's your body releasing dopamine to deal with that. And it's not as good/normal as doing thst during opiate withdrawal)

AHEM. Yeah weed isn't gonna do anything for the chemical imbalance your body has during opiate withdrawal, but it WILL provide you that nice perspective shift to get a better view of the big/ger picture and also provide you with that "entertainment" factor that comes with the "arrrggghhh" of feeling like "man I'm bored" so you can go zone out to good music or TV/media or whatever you like to do when you're stoned.

Then, of course, it's easy to do some kind of "direct swap" for getting stoned all the time to keep you from running back to the well again and again as time goes on, aka using weed as a crutch, but hey that's another story for another time and at least with weed there's no physical withdrawal to fuck with you--- basically you just gotta get over yourself and remember "life is boring" and que sera sera, no? =]

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Depends on the individual, sini.

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I've always described the sensation of smoking weed as having a 90 degree perspective shift in terms of how you see/perceive/interface-with the world, and as such I've found that if you aren't smoking a lot to where s little goes a long way, that wake-bake style 90 degree perspective shift can do some good things in terms of helping you see the big/ger picture with opiates/withdrawal (I.e. Seeing beyond the opiate/withdrawal cycle in the forefront)

THAT SAID, when getting bliznaizknowed (stoned) you gets you more attentive/perceptive/etc it's also easier to realize "hey I'm technically not feeling 100.0% good -proper off of [whatever]" so sometimes you have a tendency to reach for a little something, be it an opiate swap out like methadone or Suboxone or perhaps even a "smaller than usual" dose of opiates to help step yourself down "one day at a time" --- file this under "double edged sword" cuz that added perspective to help you see past your immediate day-to-day chemicality will also help you realize "hey maybe I'm a little worse off today than I thought" --- but even then you tend to keep sight of the big/get picture of what you need/ought to do and you tend to be way more practical than hedonist.

So yeah, weed won't help you with the physical comedown at all (seeing as withdrawal = your body realizing it's not gonna get its "vitamin" to [release-the-floodgates to wring-the-washcloth] of dopamine/endorphins/etc so it takes a few days for your body to start producing that at normal levels, as opiate withdrawal is technically feeling the aches and pains of everyday life without the usual levels of dopamine (painkiller/pleasure hormone that your body releases when like, say, slap your face really hard and notice how the pain starts to subside within a few seconds? Well that's your body releasing dopamine to deal with that. And it's not as good/normal as doing thst during opiate withdrawal)

AHEM. Yeah weed isn't gonna do anything for the chemical imbalance your body has during opiate withdrawal, but it WILL provide you that nice perspective shift to get a better view of the big/ger picture and also provide you with that "entertainment" factor that comes with the "arrrggghhh" of feeling like "man I'm bored" so you can go zone out to good music or TV/media or whatever you like to do when you're stoned.

Then, of course, it's easy to do some kind of "direct swap" for getting stoned all the time to keep you from running back to the well again and again as time goes on, aka using weed as a crutch, but hey that's another story for another time and at least with weed there's no physical withdrawal to fuck with you--- basically you just gotta get over yourself and remember "life is boring" and que sera sera, no? =]





Mistakenly posted in the knockoff thread, eating it is 50x more intense than inhaling it... Eat enough concentrated food and you'd swear you were on acid or opiods...zero pain, visuals, body high and head high..euphoria etc.

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Depends on the individual, sini.


Yeah, I wouldn't describe weed like that at all.

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sinicalypse wrote:
I've always described the sensation of smoking weed as having a 90 degree perspective shift in terms of how you see/perceive/interface-with the world, and as such I've found that if you aren't smoking a lot to where s little goes a long way, that wake-bake style 90 degree perspective shift can do some good things in terms of helping you see the big/ger picture with opiates/withdrawal (I.e. Seeing beyond the opiate/withdrawal cycle in the forefront)

THAT SAID, when getting bliznaizknowed (stoned) you gets you more attentive/perceptive/etc it's also easier to realize "hey I'm technically not feeling 100.0% good -proper off of [whatever]" so sometimes you have a tendency to reach for a little something, be it an opiate swap out like methadone or Suboxone or perhaps even a "smaller than usual" dose of opiates to help step yourself down "one day at a time" --- file this under "double edged sword" cuz that added perspective to help you see past your immediate day-to-day chemicality will also help you realize "hey maybe I'm a little worse off today than I thought" --- but even then you tend to keep sight of the big/get picture of what you need/ought to do and you tend to be way more practical than hedonist.

So yeah, weed won't help you with the physical comedown at all (seeing as withdrawal = your body realizing it's not gonna get its "vitamin" to [release-the-floodgates to wring-the-washcloth] of dopamine/endorphins/etc so it takes a few days for your body to start producing that at normal levels, as opiate withdrawal is technically feeling the aches and pains of everyday life without the usual levels of dopamine (painkiller/pleasure hormone that your body releases when like, say, slap your face really hard and notice how the pain starts to subside within a few seconds? Well that's your body releasing dopamine to deal with that. And it's not as good/normal as doing thst during opiate withdrawal)

AHEM. Yeah weed isn't gonna do anything for the chemical imbalance your body has during opiate withdrawal, but it WILL provide you that nice perspective shift to get a better view of the big/ger picture and also provide you with that "entertainment" factor that comes with the "arrrggghhh" of feeling like "man I'm bored" so you can go zone out to good music or TV/media or whatever you like to do when you're stoned.

Then, of course, it's easy to do some kind of "direct swap" for getting stoned all the time to keep you from running back to the well again and again as time goes on, aka using weed as a crutch, but hey that's another story for another time and at least with weed there's no physical withdrawal to fuck with you--- basically you just gotta get over yourself and remember "life is boring" and que sera sera, no? =]





Mistakenly posted in the knockoff thread, eating it is 50x more intense than inhaling it... Eat enough concentrated food and you'd swear you were on acid or opiods...zero pain, visuals, body high and head high..euphoria etc.


Especially if you decarboxylate the weed before you make the butter. I watched a few Youtube videos and learned a lot. I made some brownies this summer that were extremely potent. They would help out Chet big time.

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Once ya get to 155 degrees you are decarbing ..so the crock pot decarbs ... Just use olive oil or coconut oil ..more fat, better absorption..

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Once ya get to 155 degrees you are decarbing ..so the crock pot decarbs ... Just use olive oil or coconut oil ..more fat, better absorption..



I do it in the oven. 50 minutes at 225 in a bread pan. The cannabis gets a little brown and crispy. Then it is ready to be added to melted butter.

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