I don't buy that. We know Glennon sucks. If he was taking shots and they were being dropped due to bad hands or lack of separation I would agree with you. That's not the case. Glennon is genuinely very bad and theres zero potential there.

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He badly missed open receivers.

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I wouldn't trade TT for Pace but again, TT is responsible for the second most consistently good NFL team since I graduated high school. It's a ridiculously high bar to hold a rookie GM up to.

The Packers aren't that good but also only five teams are better than them? Doesn't compute.

I think you're conflating building blocks with All Pro type players. There's a ton of building blocks on this team. They aren't very weak anywhere outside of WR, OT, and possibly CB(secondary looking better than expected though)

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If Glennon throws a pick instead of getting that touchdown before half, would Mitch have started the 2nd?

The Packers shouldn't dominate any team in all facets without it being a big warning sign for the team that gets dominated. They aren't a great team. Rodgers gets them to the playoffs.

I want my rebuild to have future difference makers. I'm not celebrating having future average players.

I'll ask it a different way. If Pace was fired today would he get another GM job in the next 5 years?

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Doubtful. Fox is probably the most conservative coach in the NFL. The longer he's employed the more it will hurt (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's development.

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He's tall, accurate and displayed arm strength in the past. I dont know what happened to that arm strength, but it ahs evidently disappeared. Its clear now that he is terrible, but not so clear back in the Spring before we got such an extended look at him.

I don't know. I was feeling like he might. As conservative as he is, getting your ass kicked and doing nothing about it on national tv isnt anyone's style.



Romo and Nantz were talking like it was a possibility.

Besides injury I think the next game was always his first chance to play. Bye week and low expectations because it's clear they suck.

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That's all he has after three drafts and free agent classes. Its bad, even if you give him a break for starting with literally nothing its bad.

but he drafted (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, and if (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky hits his ceiling Pace will forever be a tragic hero in Chicago sports history.

Your last question is irrelevant to this discussion solely because none of us has any clue what the correct answer is.

You and others seem to want to divorce the QB from the team but you can't do that. It's like saying the Cavs aren't great without LeBron. Acquiring the 2nd best QB of the last 20 years is a HUGE plus for that GM and it rightly diminishes other concerns.


Most of us here think the Falcons are better than GB. GB did outclass the Bears last night in almost every facet, that's not really debatable, but they played the Falcons to a near draw. Are you honestly placing your entire evaluation of the team on solely last night?

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If (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is good Pace will be the hottest item on the front office market. I've said this before, teams are desperate to crack the QB code.

When is the media's fascination with Howie Long's kid come to an end?

Wake me when he actually does something besides flapping his lips.

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He never had good arm strength. He's not very accurate either.

He is tall, but I don't think Robin Lopez would be a good QB either.

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Mike Glennon looks like he lives under a bridge

That literally IS Fox's style.

Remember the SB?

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Long/Whitehair/Sitton is about as good an interior line as there is in the NFL. You can find complaints about anything on this team other than the interior OL and the RB.

I mean when you have a reasonable move to make (replacing the QB)

That's not all he has, those are the bright spots. Outside of that he's built a solidly competent team that is a WR or two, a QB(who he may have already gotten), and a coach away from contention. That's really not that far off from what should be reasonable after three years.

I'm not saying he's been flawless by any means. Like I said, if he's keeping Fox by choice I already retract this entire argument. The Glennon contract and keeping Cutler the extra year are also indefensible. Even great GMs have embarrassing moves though.

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The answer is no.
You are the one that said the Packers beat the Bears in "every facet". They aren't that dominant that they should do that to anyone. That was your analysis of the game until it became inconvenient to something else you wanted to say.
You know that week 1 ends up with some strange scores like that. The Falcons and Green Bay are significantly better than the Bears. Do you agree?

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Solidly competent team?
Ignore (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, and the running backs(which is the easiest position to get an impact player). What players on the Bears do you predict are high impact players in the next few years? I'm talking about guys who you could project to being a potential pro bowl player.

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they also need an entire defensive backfield, dont forget that.

Well Whitehair is already one of the best lineman overall in the NFL, much less best centers. But is center really a high impact position? Not saying its unimportant, but goddamn the Bears just need someone who can make a fucking play.

They should, but that entire group is playing well so far. Not sure what to make of it yet. Eddie Jackson might be a keeper.

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I'm confident that the Bears will prove as the season goes on that they aren't as good as most of the teams on their schedule.

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I agree, but I think a lot of that is because they have one of the worst coaches(I know Fox's credentials, Vince Lombardi would also not be a good coach for this Bears team) and QB's in the league.

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So, outside of (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky(easy pick) and the running backs(easiest position in the game to find impact players), that's 3 players and a maybe, and one of them wasn't even a Pace pick.

This rebuild is going great. I trust Pace to build depth on the team by adding good talent at the pace of 2 players per year!

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The Bridge QB....to nowhere.

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