Pretty clear, never fired = have no understanding.

These are your words.

It's a good way to start having an informed opinion on one. If you are uncomfortable around a gun, then familiarize yourself with one. Learn how they operate, Learn what recoil feels like (and the different levels that come with different types of weapons). The anti-gun stories propagating the online media are written by 22 year old freelancers who have only seen a gun in a movie. They use terms which are decidedly inaccurate and frequently misidentify weapons. Whether by intention or by ignorance, they are literally spreading fake news.

Here is a good piece from left wing Slate, which admits this is a problem in journalism

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... _guns.html

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One post... Do you think you'd be interested in marital advice from someone who has never been married or child rearing advice from a lady with no kids?

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Perhaps I could have worded that better, but the larger point remains that those writing in the media are largely ignorant of basic firearm facts.

They demonstrate this fact time and time again.

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Absolutely.

From the Slate piece I liked above:

"Media stories in the wake of mass shootings typically feature a laundry list of mistakes that reflect their writers’ inexperience with guns and gun culture. Some of them are small but telling: conflating automatic and semi-automatic weapons, assault rifle and assault weapon, caliber and gauge—all demonstrating a general lack of familiarity with firearms. Some of them are bigger. Like calling for “common-sense gun control” and “universal background checks” after instances in which a shooter purchased a gun legally and passed background checks. Or focusing on mass shootings involving assault weapons—and thereby ignoring statistics that show that far more people die from handguns."

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What specifically?

"If they wouldn't do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that the Repugs will ever do the right thing," she wrote. "I'm actually not even sympathetic bc country music fans often are republican gun toters."

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"Smiles with Nostrils"

"...no Hmong, go find some blacks"

Ok lol well then. Sure.

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Not feeling sympathy for innocent civilians who lost their lives because of their assumed political affiliations is galling, and sounds quite a bit like what a sociopath would say. Also, her use of sympathy here subtly indicates that she believes these people somehow deserved to die for being "republican gun toters". That is, also, quite galling.

I mean she's free to say whatever dumbassed shit she wants but it made her sound like a total psycho and she got canned for it so I guess we all win on this deal.

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Who would have better parenting advice, Farvefan or Adrian Peterson?


Dicaro or FF?


Having children doesn't mean dick, you either have common sense or you don't.

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Having children doesn't qualify you to dispense advice.
That said not having children kinda makes your advice suspicious at best.
I remember when a notoriously bad at relationships kid Cairo was dispensing marital advice. That mother fucked was pissed as hell when called out, rightfully, to keep his advice to himself. I'm pretty sure I got a weepy pm over that nonsense myself.
If you've never been married, you probably don't know dick about being married.

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I'm all for real and actionable reforms to address gun violence, but all I've seen so far in this thread is "ban the bad guns". If you're anti gun and want to call people "gun humpers" at least propose something reasonable.

Only RR has proposed anything plausible.

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Oh it didn't occur to me that you were using 'wrong' in the psychological sense.

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"Smiles with Nostrils"

"...no Hmong, go find some blacks"

It is wrong in many senses. Believing people are nothing more than their presumed opposing political beliefs and thus somehow deserve or warrant killing belies both a supremely negative personality trait, but also is a completely immoral mantra that has, surprise surprise, served as the basis for many of the worst atrocities committed by man.

So can we assume that if you are ever diagnosed with cancer you would only want to be treated by a doctor who currently has or in the past had cancer?

Ok as a pro gun guy I'll go over this one more time...

Although the gun show loophole isn't exactly what it's claimed to be fine close the loophole. Id be fine with Mandatory background checks on every gun transaction, public and private. Im more than fine with even a 10 day shit who cares make it a 14 or 30 day wait. I'm cool with that.

Now we know automatic weapons are banned by federal law. I'm perfectly fine with that. However, although I have zero interest in weapons such as the maligned ar15 I don't see a need to ban them. However, if you illegal alter your weapons absolutely you should face massive consequences. And I do mean massive.

I would say that your average bozo shouldn't be able to just buy a gun. You should take a two day minimum safety class before you get authorized to buy a weapon. And... demonstrate competency with the model you choose before you get to sign the line. Maybe I told the story here in the past about the woman in the range that scared the shit out of me as she was I the process of scaring the sbit out of herself with her shiny new toy. Had no idea what she was doing yet she got the goddamn thing and I was convinced she was going to shoot herself or me on accident.

Stuff I think is dumb is magazine size limits or suppressor restrictions or my favorite stupid idea serialized brass. Thst is dumber than shit. Clearly we don't need tanks or tactical nukes or RPGs or anything ridiculous that the gun crowd is rumored to need or want.

My personal interests lie solely with my hunting shotguns and protection/sporting handguns. We have had two incidents over the last 20 years when I was glad as hell to have access to a firearm, didn't need it and didn't ever leave my pocket but we were glad we had them if shit went south. I am firmly of the belief that bad things happen lightning fast and the fastest a cop can get here is minutes, minutes after action would be required.

I'm not afraid of terrorist under my bed. I'm not just itching to shoot someone nor hoping for an excuse to do so.

I find target practice a fun and relaxing way to blow off steam. I believe my experience in such matters in overall a valuable skill worth honing.

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They did what they had to do to protect the public. It's fine for you to disagree of course, but again it's pretty radical to see this as a precursor to "tyranny." I realize this is a larger philosophical disagreement with regard to political authority and whatnot, so we're not likely to solve that here. I'll try to stick to the minute details instead. Not to be flippant, but especially with regard to Ogie's comments, I see you contending with hypothetical tyranny more than any kind of real tyranny, or even a hint of tyranny. I don't deny the examples TM put forward, of course, but that doesn't mean every single act any level of government takes takes us one step closer to "tyranny." I don't think it's too much to take things on a case by case basis. In cases of possible overreach, like ostensibly the Boston manhunt thing, I'd rather hear things like "lawsuit," or "public forum/debate," or "official complaints," but what I hear is "I've got guns." And that's what makes some of Ogie's comments a little disturbing because they combine this radical and unwarranted (unless Ogie has been sent here from the 1800s) suspicion of authorities with this obsessive fixation with armaments. I mean, again, if you really want to contest temporary martial law or whatever happened after 9/11 or the Boston bombings then file a lawsuit. If things get like real dark and dreary, then sure, maybe the hypothetical tyranny isn't so hypothetical anymore. But relative to the rest of the world, we've got pretty good institutions and decent rule of law experiences. Given that, is there really a need to reflexively think about guns when things go awry for a bit? This isn't Chad.

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What the hell is wrong with you? How are you misunderstanding this simple concept? Is it intentional?

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No, you'd want a doctor who specializes in the type of cancer you have. Not just a random doctor. You aren't all there are you?

Right because a marriage has nothing to do with understanding human emotions, fears, anxieties, physiological factors, sociological factors, trust issues, security issues, self esteem issues, etc. You obviously can't have an understanding of these things without being married...

It really has everything to do with signing the marriage license.

Right, so if you want marital advice/help you would seek out someone who specializes in helping married people, regardless as to the fact if that person is married or not, not just some random person. You aren't all there are you?

Oy.
Yeah I am pretty sure we're discussing this thing on different levels, so I'll say later to you.

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Cogent thoughts and reasonable response. This thread needs more discussion like this. Or should we just stick with calling each other burritos?

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Oh, so your point was that you would appreciate a well informed media? Total agreement here whether it comes to gun laws, health care, the environment, foreign policy, etc.

Problem is that wasn't what you said. You said you have to shoot a gun to be informed about them and the larger issues around them, which is total bullshit clearly.

The 2nd Amendment is "the" firewall against tyranny?

Seems like this is a pretty monumental idea, I'd love to know who declared the above and where it was declared.

There are other safeguards, but to be fair the 1st amendment doesn't stop riot control gas.

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This guy gets it.

Watched my 5 year old and 2 year old nephews this past summer for 4 hours and they didn't die. Or get whipped with a switch.

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I'd like to change my answer from Adrian Peterson to Farvefan.

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