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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:51 pm 
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Tom Petty was great, but he was not Bob Dylan and he was not Bruce Springsteen. He is one of those important bridge figures in the chronology of Rock. A lot of what Tom Petty represents is what Dave Grohl tries to be.


I happen to really like Dave Grohl, but I had this exact same thought earlier today,
along the lines of 'Tom Petty was Dave Grohl when Dave Grohl was still in diapers........'.
What American kid who picked up a guitar in the early to mid 80's didn't wanna be Tom Petty?
He might still be clinically alive, but I think we know how this ends up.....
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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Tom Petty is a legend. With all due respect, anyone that says otherwise can promptly shut the fuck up. Unless you’re bringing the comedy, that is.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Dylan was awful. Petty was great. Case closed.

But neither was as epic as Beyonce. YAAS QUEEN, SLAY, SLAY


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Dylan sounded best on Blood on the Tracks (my favorite album).
Also, Bootleg 5, Rolling Thunder Revue was probably Dylan at his peak vocally.

I agree with this.

All due respect sirs. We wait for T-Bone's input on this one.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:18 pm 
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beni hanna wrote:
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Dylan sounded best on Blood on the Tracks (my favorite album).
Also, Bootleg 5, Rolling Thunder Revue was probably Dylan at his peak vocally.

I agree with this.

All due respect sirs. We wait for T-Bone's input on this one.

Goes without saying.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Telegram Sam wrote:
Tom Petty was great, but he was not Bob Dylan and he was not Bruce Springsteen. He is one of those important bridge figures in the chronology of Rock. A lot of what Tom Petty represents is what Dave Grohl tries to be.

I generally agree, with a caveat. Dylan strived to be what he became, and so did Bruce. What did Petty strive to be? I don't think his goal in music (setting aside the sex, drugs and R&R mentality) was the same, and he did his thing better than most. The Grohl comparison is perfect. Petty achieved 'it', while Grohl flails around doing things loudly with a little more PR behind him.


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Telegram Sam wrote:
Tom Petty was great, but he was not Bob Dylan and he was not Bruce Springsteen. He is one of those important bridge figures in the chronology of Rock. A lot of what Tom Petty represents is what Dave Grohl tries to be.

I generally agree, with a caveat. Dylan strived to be what he became, and so did Bruce. What did Petty strive to be? I don't think his goal in music (setting aside the sex, drugs and R&R mentality) was the same, and he did his thing better than most. The Grohl comparison is perfect. Petty achieved 'it', while Grohl flails around doing things loudly with a little more PR behind him.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Tom Petty is one of those cats I would love to have jammed with and had a beer or few...

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Telegram Sam wrote:
Tom Petty was great, but he was not Bob Dylan and he was not Bruce Springsteen. He is one of those important bridge figures in the chronology of Rock. A lot of what Tom Petty represents is what Dave Grohl tries to be.

Tom Petty should be happy he's not Bruce Springstein. If Tom Petty = Dave Grohl, then Scott Stapp = Bruce Springstein.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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I don't get the Scott Stapp/Bruce Springsteen comparison at all. halp

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Curious Hair wrote:
I don't get the Scott Stapp/Bruce Springsteen comparison at all. halp

They're both terrible.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Eddie Vedder is a closer comparison to Springsteen in that they both have long careers with long tails and insanely devoted fans who bootleg and quibble over all their four-hour concerts.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Eddie Vedder is a closer comparison to Springsteen in that they both have long careers with long tails and insanely devoted fans who bootleg and quibble over all their four-hour concerts.

I'll allow it.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Eddie Vedder is a closer comparison to Springsteen in that they both have long careers with long tails and insanely devoted fans who bootleg and quibble over all their four-hour concerts.


Also raging self righteous assholes.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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I've been trying to get into Springsteen post-Born in the U.S.A. and I don't think it's gonna happen. Human Touch and Lucky Town are really really bad.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Just passed.

My first concert. Very sad.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Born to Run is fucking great. Keep the rest

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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I've been trying to get into Springsteen post-Born in the U.S.A. and I don't think it's gonna happen. Human Touch and Lucky Town are really really bad.

He was given some leeway at the time iirc. Coupla big hits. Coupla sappy songs. Coupla dumpster fires...it was the 80's, Reagan and all...He got a pass.

Nope, I don't know what that means but it summed things up just about right. You had to be there. Lot's of double popped alligator collars. Penny loafers. Not a good time. Not a good time at all.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Somewhere on this bored is a beni post attempting to work the title of all Petty hits into said post. It was a pathetic masterpiece. I tried running it down, but didn't get lucky. Connection Brokedown, so i Waited. I Needed to Know if Too Much Ain't Enough....you get the gist.

I enjoyed the body of work, and leaned on it at times. Later I heard from people that played with him he was a shit. Me thinks jealousy was involved. If this is the end it is safe to say, Lucky or no, he was no loser. Unfortunately, life did him like that. It happens to the best of them. Thank you for your efforts good man. RIP.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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Just passed.

My first concert. Very sad.


For sure dead?

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Just passed.

My first concert. Very sad.


For sure dead?


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Just passed.

My first concert. Very sad.


For sure dead?


Yes

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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I think it's cool how almost everyone has a story about high school, Tom Petty music, and a car.

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I don't get the Scott Stapp/Bruce Springsteen comparison at all. halp

They're both terrible.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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i don't think tom petty was "striving" to be anything more than just a songwriter. and while dave grohl loves the limelight, he's at least got a sense of humor about it.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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beni hanna wrote:
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Dylan sounded best on Blood on the Tracks (my favorite album).
Also, Bootleg 5, Rolling Thunder Revue was probably Dylan at his peak vocally.

I agree with this.

All due respect sirs. We wait for T-Bone's input on this one.


I'm far from the Dylan expert here. A lot of people are with Cory with regards to liking Blood on the Tracks the best and it was one of
my favorites as well. Bootleg 5 is a great period of live performances that bleed into the Desire album which again is one of my favs.
Dylan will always be someone that gets people riled up, not a traditionally great singer but everything he did into the mid to late 70s
he still had his voice. After that things got progressively worse.

Petty was a very similar performer in a lot of ways. Very good songwriter with a voice that a lot of people would say was not traditional.
I never got into him enough to even buy an album but was pretty familiar with his musical catalog. Probably spend some time on YouTube
today listening. Rather than just pulling up a Greatest Hits album does anyone have a suggestion for best Tom Petty album? I prefer to
listen to full albums.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Tom Petty
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I've been trying to get into Springsteen post-Born in the U.S.A. and I don't think it's gonna happen. Human Touch and Lucky Town are really really bad.


Yeah, Springsteen post Born in the USA is pretty awful. I also didn't like Nebraska. Born to Run is the gold standard, The River is really good, but a little long, Darkness on the Edge of Town is delightful, and I like the bloated jamming on The Wild, The Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle.

Post 85, the only thing he did that wasn't completely awful was Magic, and that wasn't very good. Meet Me in the City off of the River re-release was pretty good.

Conversely, I haven't liked much Tom Petty did after Wildflowers. To me, Damn the Torpedoes is his gold standard.

Oh well, RIP.

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Dylan was awful. Petty was great. Case closed.

But neither was as epic as Beyonce. YAAS QUEEN, SLAY, SLAY


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Dylan was awful. Petty was great. Case closed.

Leash has the right of it.

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Dylan was awful. Petty was great. Case closed.

But neither was as epic as Beyonce. YAAS QUEEN, SLAY, SLAY


Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Neither of them can hold a candle to Nelly.

Yup.

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