Casual fan and casual gun owner.

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The media and the left have many people scared of things that are just not correct. Like a big black assault rifle being more dangerous than a deer hunting rifle. Or as was mentioned yesterday some guy has 500 rounds of ammo!

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the really funny thing is, in person, Baby McNown is a good guy. Met him long ago at a B&B remote.

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That's with anything though. The media and right have many people scared of things that are just not correct. Like a gay or black person being more dangerous than a straight or white person.

A lot of misinformation of every side

I suppose. Yo don't have to be afraid of gays though.

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I am all good with Baby too. We have engaged in rational discussions several times. But he certainly antagonizes certain people around here.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

So you can't like him because THEY don't like him?

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GO BEARS!!!

So you know how the gun grabbers love pointing to Australia... perhaps not a country we want to emulate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/worl ... &smtyp=cur

They are about to create a database where everyone who gets a driver's license will be added to a facial recognition database. Nothing Orwellian or authoritarian here from our sadly powerless and disarmed Aussies.

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If I am not mistaken, that exists in Illinois. My drivers license photo is stored electronically, in a database.

Are you talking to me? Seriously, I can't see how you would come to the conclusion that I don't like him from what I posted. On balance, I am neutral. He doesn't bother me at all, and I find him entertaining at times.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

he said he finds him entertaining.

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That's pretty fucking scary if true. This is 3D recognition though so CCTV cameras can track your movement. I don't know if that's what you're referring to in Illinois. That's what Australia will have though.

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damn. Denis going out of his way to not just say "I like Baby Mac"


very telling.

it's clear to me, again, having met the guy, that he's playing a caricature of himself here. He's a lot like IMU gets at times.

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It is but if you didnt even know about it, soooo....

If an over reaching govt stores your info in the forest and no one sees it, does it make a sound?

An insult to both guys, simultaneously.


It's like May 1st up in here

Nas is tired. His trolling suffers for it.

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I mean, you go to the DMV, they take your picture, you sit down, and 10 minutes later it comes out on a printer...well actually they changed it now, it's made offsite, then mailed to you..but I digress..it's not like they are cutting up poloroids and building your license on the spot...the image is stored somewhere.

I read the shots you've taken at him. It seemed like you didn't want to piss JORR off. My mistake.

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GO BEARS!!!

Ogie where does all this fear/distrust of the goverment get you? All the paranoid/worried shit for nothing. I doubt we are going to have a meltdown "V for Vendenddta" situation in the United States anytime soon, and if we do, it's not going to be stopped anyways. I mean, what's the point?

So the only way for this democratic society to stop this process is to start shooting other citizens of their country?

Maybe he's taken shots because the guy is a complete shithead and you're a bad judge of character.

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I question how Democratic our societies really are. See Catalonia. People hold a vote for self determination and the state violently suppresses it with the nodding approval of the EU. (I will laugh the next time they accuse others of being non-democratic)

Face it, governments have grown too powerful and are increasingly becoming out of control. The 2nd Amendment (used properly) can help ensure the rest of our rights remain intact as we are sadly seeing them eroded away by an ever growing state.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I'd like you to point to some respected authority or some doctrine that determined that governments have grown too powerful and are increasingly out of control. I'm sure you have some authority or reputable consensus of experts to determine that governments are out of control? Some evidence right?

Of course you don't, it's just more of your bullshit that you are peddling around here.

I've posted this before, in this thread, you are the one who first turns to violence as a means to resist something you disagree with. This is your mindset, this is your interpretation of how someone should resist. In your view violence is the first, only, and ultimate way to resist something that a democratic society has deemed viable through the governmental process. It's your only option seemingly. The 2nd Amendment being "THE" firewall against tyranny.

Plenty of great people who have caused far greater or more important changes than you ever could dream of would likely disagree with your violence first stance.

This says something about you, who you are, how you view the world, it's a prism of violence. Maybe you're an angry person, maybe you're insecure, maybe you had a violent upbringing. Sell one of you guns and go talk to a therapist for a while, might do you some good in more ways than one.

So if the residents of the State of Illinois vote to be independent from the USA, it should just happen because that vote occurred? Is that your position?

Yes, I believe states should peacefully be allowed to exit the union. I think it would be a poor move for a state like Illinois to do so, but if the people wanted the self determination to do so, then by all means allow it.

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Wait I thought 3D technology was the greatest invention to prevent "tryanny", I'm confused...

Hah. Well, I am not going to lie, I love JORR. But nothing he says or does is going to cloud my opinion of another poster. I can't recall taking shots at Baby, but there is probably something in my 10k plus posting history.

I think you might be fighting a proxy battle here using me in your ongoing Trump battle with JORR.

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The states entered the union under the terms of the constitution, if they want to leave they should follow the constitutional process.

Let's see examples of out of control government (this expands through multiple levels of government)

[*]Civil Asset Forfeiture
[*]unending 16 year war
[*]expansion of said war into 7+ different countries
[*]PRISM
[*]Patriot Act
[*]TSA
[*]"enhanced" interrogation
[*]extrajudicial killings of suspects by police officers
[*]Federal control over 50+% of land in over a dozen western states (including 85% of Nevada)
[*]no knock raid warrants
[*]the entire war on drugs

I'm just getting started here. Do you really want me to continue here? It's safe to say that we no longer live in a free society

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