You also don't see Muslims from Dearborn, Michigan pontificating about "Death to America" and "Infidels" either. If you listen to Jorr and his numerous lies about Muslims you'd think that it is so intrinsic to their being that there's no way that an inverse could be true.

Shut up. You can't find one lie I've ever told about Muslims. And you're the one who seemingly thinks that following a fucked up philosophy is "intrinsic". Also, I doubt you've ever been to Dearborn.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Shut up. You can't find one lie I've ever told about Muslims. And you're the one who seemingly thinks that following a fucked up philosophy is "intrinsic". Also, I doubt you've ever been to Dearborn.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Nobody cares who started it or what the USA has done foreign policy wise. Muslims rape children, Muslims subjugate women, Muslims destroy history they seem heretical, Muslims do not see people if other religions and faiths as even human. These are not byproducts of Islam, these are the core parts of Islam itself. Defending it is disgusting.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

I do know Muslims from Dearborn and not one has ever proclaimed Death to America. I actually had to ask what religion they belonged to in order to find out also. Some fanatic huh? You don't even think Islam is a religion. That's how whacked out you are.

You cherry picked a few passages and stated that it is endemic of the entire religion. That's a damn lie. You also have repeatedly intimated that the conflict was initiated by Muslims. That's a damn lie. Not once have you ever addressed any issue that involved aggression against Muslims. Your bias shows each and every time the issue comes up.

If you're going to look at it objectively then look at it objectively. You can't. Each and every operation that the U.S. has taken over the past 15 years has involved a Muslim country yet somehow someway they are out to get us. That is a standard American propagandist way of looking at it. It doesn't make me a "lover" of Islam either. It makes me an objective rational person that doesn't fall for U.S. bullshit.

So what? We wouldn't give a fuck if we didn't need the damn oil. That Kim bastard does much worse yet we have left him alone for 60 got damn years because we don't need shit from him. Saudi Arabia commits more atrocities against humanity than any country in the Middle East yet we welcome those monarchist bastards whenever they choose to visit the country. We also respect their God damn religion when it serves our interests.

Quit with the bullshit morality play. It rings hollow for this student of American History.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

It's not that I don't think it's a "religion". Anything can be characterized as a religion. What I said was that declaring something such doesn't give it a pass on its reprehensible ideas.

You keep repeating this bullshit and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Muslims have attempted to establish caliphates for a thousand years. The United States is 150 years old.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

It's not that I don't think it's a "religion". Anything can be characterized as a religion. What I said was that declaring something such doesn't give it a pass on its reprehensible ideas.

You keep repeating this bullshit and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Muslims have attempted to establish caliphates for a thousand years. The United States is 150 years old.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

We don't need anyone's oil. That's a false flag. We are the leading producers of oil in the world currently.

Your comments about Saudi Arabia are spot on. I wish Obama would have allowed 9/11 survivors to sue them. But that would have opened up the US to similar lawsuits for things we shouldn't have, or shouldn't be doing.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Forget about the lawsuits. If we are morally opposed to what they are doing then we wouldn't be aligning with them. If we are going to be moralists then be moralists. The morality play is complete and utter bullshit. We do need their oil and our interest in the Middle East ratcheted up the second we discovered that they possessed large swaths of oil. That is a historical fact.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

We don't currently need a drop of their oil. And won't need any until well into the next century. If then.

And I don't know the morality play that you are referring to.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

The USA is not perfect, but I think it always tries to be.

NO

It is a country that often does the wrong thing for the right reasons.

Doing evil to achieve a "good" is not acceptable and may be the most slippery slope of all.

Islam otoh is evil to the core and will commit unspeakable acts for no reason at all.

They are far from alone in this.


Islam is a contempt for human life.

America has a contempt for human life as well.


It has absolutely no redeeming qualities.

Wrong again.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

What are the redeeming qualities of Islam and Islamic countries?

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

Using their oil means that we won't have to use ours. There also are environmental implications if we drill inside the U.S.

How is the moral play unbeknownst to you? America just made it and it is a constant response used by Republicans whenever opposition viewpoints are expressed. They rape they murder. That is the standard play and it is faulty. We do not give a damn about the atrocities that are committed by Muslims. If we were we wouldn't have continued to align ourselves with Saudi Arabia. Political and economic expediency have always superseded any trepidation that may have existed regarding their treatment of citizens.We repeatedly turned a blind's eye. Once we needed a rationale for war we used that as the Trump card. Bullshit.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

If it isn't oil then why is Saudi Arabia considered an ally?


Security and a chit in the region. Oh, and a lot of rich Americans, specifically the kind that give large political donations, have investments in the Middle East.

Oh yeah Bush concocted the phony weapons of mass destruction as his rationale. When that proved fallacious he pivoted to the equally foolish contention regarding Iraq being a "hotbed for Islamic terrorist". Republican fanatics bought each lie hook line and sinker because they had no clue regarding the history of Iraq.

As far as Afghanistan goes you're either lying or are simply ignorant. At the start of that particular war Republican propaganda continuously portrayed the Northern Alliance as the "good guys" and Taliban as the "bad guys. This line was sold to the American public by Propagandist Republicans and an equally complicit media. It wasn't until much later that the truth emerged regarding the Northern Alliance.

Again, rape and murder were not used as reason to invade either country. We were told that we invaded Afghanistan because they harbored Al-Queda. The Taliban's treatment of women in particular was highlighted after we got there. And the behaviors of MANY in the Northern Alliance were well known to even the marginally educated.

And you often undercut any real thought you may have by reverting to name calling as some sort of effective tool for debate.

The line regarding rapists and murderers has been used as the primary rationale for the continuing occupation of Afghanistan. This has been the case long after it became apparent that selling it as the place for which Bin Laden lay was no longer prudent.

And that is not been the US policy under Bush, or Obama. We are still in numerous countries across the glove long after conflicts have ended, for the same reason we are still in Afghanistan.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

You say it isn't about the oil?

http://geab.eu/en/top-10-countries-with ... -reserves/

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

What I clearly stated repeatedly is that we DO NOT NEED oil from Saudi Arabia.

I'll repeat it again. WE DO NOT NEED OIL FROM SAUDI ARABIA!!

Is that clear now?

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Ah shit I lost it, Lou.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

I hope you find it soon.

And I don't own a gun, but I'm not for someone taking yours.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Ok good to know.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

What I clearly stated repeatedly is that we DO NOT NEED oil from Saudi Arabia.

I'll repeat it again. WE DO NOT NEED OIL FROM SAUDI ARABIA!!

Is that clear now?

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Yeah. Clearly wrong.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.