I would hope everyone has by now.

Suuuuuuure they have.

The Y factor is his most recent numbers. Total crapshoot as to what you'd get even before the X factor, which is his baggage. Add both together and you simply get something not worth the trouble.

It's always been the sum. It's not some great commentary on where we are as a society.

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I havent seen many people arguing Kap isnt good enough. More like "freedom of speech has consequences"

The systemic oppression is the shootings. The Vice President making a big scene to denigrate and discredit the protest absolutely feeds into it.


But, who cares what Eric Reid said, anyway? Why would that bother you to the point of eye rolls?

Eye rolls (emoji or otherwise) are usually a bad look.

The most plausible theory is that he didn't want to be a backup, and didn't want to be paid like a backup. Weeden is making $775k this year and was just signed as the third string quarterback because the clear starter was injured. So, Kaepernick is a better quarterback than Weeden, but it also doesn't mean that Weeden was signed over Kaepernick. Weeden was out of the league before he was brought in to basically be a guy who could hand the ball off if the two quarterbacks on the team can't go.

Oh, and I'll trust that Baby McCown is right that Weeden took a snap, but he didn't even throw a pass if he did get in the game so I don't really think it's a strong point.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

That's not what Reid said. He said Pence leaving (Again, after viewing the protests in full and making no effort to stop them) was "systemic oppression", which it most certainly is not. The First doesn't guarantee you an immediate audience whenever you please with the nation's second highest executive office.

And regardless of what Reid was clumsily referring to, we can now add "oppression" to the list of words that have special, new meanings that broaden their definition to suit whatever is being discussed, thereby lessening the impact and gravity of the term as a whole. When someone leaving a football game (AFTER WATCHING THE PROTEST IN ITS ENTIRETY) is in any good god damn way oppressive, then everything, and simultaneously nothing, is oppressive.

Pence is clearly part of the "system" and I think it's fair to say that his dumb publicity stunt was an attempt to fight back against them message that the players are trying to say.

The Executive Office just needs to learn when they should shut up.

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Alright.

Seems like a weird thing to get so annoyed by, but whatever.

Yes, absolutely. This was a dumb PR campaign that was am abhorrent waste of taxpayer dollars. It was not, however, in any way oppressive of Reid, not anyone else protesting. It just simply wasn't.

The move represents the systemic oppression that exists. "How dare you protest your oppression?!"

You know this...you just cannot ever admit to oppression and discrimination existing.

Please don't have kids.

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Reid was not speaking metaphorically. Ardent defenders and ass-lickers might cling to such a view now, but he was speaking about the oppression of Mike Pence leaving a football game.



I will admit to, and rail against, things that are actually oppressive, like felony drug possession crimes and life imprisonment for non-violent drug possession offenses. But I cannot in good conscience agree with someone labeling as oppressive the act of Mike Pence leaving a football game after viewing the full protests exhibited by Reid and his teammates.



Well it's either that or I have a child with a developmental disability which you can make fun of like the class act of a human you are.

Are you fucking serious? You are so full of yourself that you are going to pass judgement on exactly what someone else meant? You...the only person on this earth that even has that viewpoint? You are a loon.

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Im not a Reid fan. Not even sure what team he is on. Guessing he's a player.

The first I saw of this tweet was this morning and I took it as metaphorical. The VP leaving at the behest of the President is part of the larger issue.

It seems like you're just on a mission to find "players who dont even know what they are protesting" and this one is a stretch.

That is not metaphorical speaking. He used "this" to describe how Pence "leaves the game with an attempt to thwart our efforts", and pointed it directly at "systemic oppression". He's not talking about the metaphorical implications of a man with such power in the United States turning his back on people with a message. He's very clearly saying that Pence leaving oppressed him.

That is not metaphorical.

Yes, it is. He is saying that Pence, the Vice President of the entire United States, thinks so little of discrimination and oppression that he walks out because he believes protesting discrimination and oppression is disrespectful to America. The Vice President represents the system...and the system is on board with oppression. Systemic oppression.

You are not a smart man. Let us do the critical thinking for you.

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I think you calling JLN a dumb Nazi over and over is definitely going to change his mind. Keep up the great work.

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I don't know what Pence's motivations are and I don't care. This is the same goof who wants to "reeducate" homosexuals.

But I will say that there are millions of Americans who have no problem with someone protesting discrimination and oppression and who might even join such protest but who also have an issue with the specific form this particular protest has taken.

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Are there smart Nazis?


I can't say for sure...but when I look at the people that have an issue with this specific form of protest...I have doubts. Maybe instead of millions you could say hundreds?

Every thinly closeted bigot has used this as an opportunity to come out and "save the National Anthem."

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Again, you are desperately trying to attach metaphorical meaning to a statement that was clearly meant literally. The phrase "leaves the game with an attempt to thwart our efforts" is not metaphorical language, it is literal language describing what Pence did, and labeling what Pence did as "systemic oppression".

In your interpretation, Pence leaving is supposed to be symbolic of a system not caring, and if that is the case, then Reid would have no reason to call Pence's action an "attempt to thwart our efforts". To "thwart" something is to derail or stifle (oppress, perhaps?) something by some overt action. The statement makes more (read: actual) sense if we read it literally: Reid is saying that Pence leaving the game was an attempt to thwart his protest, and thus Mike Pence was attempting to oppress him by leaving the football game. That is not oppression.

You are demonstrably incapable of critical thinking.

You're clueless. What Pence did is exactly attempting to derail or stifle the protest by 'officially' declaring it disrespectful and saying he (the system) won't give it the time of day.

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The grasping at stuff to try and divert our attention from the fact that probably close to a million dollars of our tax money was spent for this stunt is really cute. Just as transparent as the stunt itself, but cute.

Paraphrasing because of course his spin guys cleaned it up. "I left because how dare they disrespect the flag (they aren't) in my presence". Yeah that's pretty cut and dry.

Those are called "snowflakes"

Ah, now the goalposts are shifting. Where in "leaves the game with an attempt to thwart our efforts" is Reid decidedly not talking about the act of Pence leaving the game? Reid clearly said that Pence leaving the game is oppression of him and his message. Your attempts to pretend that isn't what he was saying are getting ever more colorful.

And no, Pence calling the protests "disrespectful" is not oppressive. It's stupid, but it isn't oppressive.

Your 'tell' when you are losing an argument on this board is to say "the goalposts are shifting."

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Other than proving IMU wrong (which is admittedly satisfying), what do you gain from pointing out that Pence leaving a football game isn't literally oppressive?

Football guy says wrong thing! Film at 11.

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And yours is actually shifting the goalposts. Like you did above.