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I meant region and not country. You cannot get past the hypocrisy that's the point. We wouldn't align our self with SAUDI Arabia if we were truly concerned about human rights.

I understand that the U.S. became involved in the Middle East only when it became apparent that they had large oil reserves. That's a fact.

It also isn't a responsibility of the U.S. to change their way of life. We aren't much interested in accomplishing that either. That's propaganda. It also doesn't excuse us for intervening in the affairs of their country.

Their treatment of women is reprehensible but it is also the responsibility of their people to change that.

U.S. Foreign policy condones that behavior in Saudi Arabia and they also condoned it in Afghanistan. At one time they agreed with it in Iraq also. Iran was considered fine too at one point in history. We didn't invade Iraq because Saddam mistreated his people either.

When I say defend I'm referencing the history of U.S. intervention in that part of the world as well as the current state of U.S. intervention in that part of the world.

It seems that very few are bothered by the fact that the U.S. has been bombing the hell out of Muslim countries for 15 years. The antipathy that Muslims may feel for Americans is more related to that than something they read about in the Koran. We never examine that because we are far too interested in finding a moral justification that favors us.


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Nobody cares who started it or what the USA has done foreign policy wise. Muslims rape children, Muslims subjugate women, Muslims destroy history they seem heretical, Muslims do not see people if other religions and faiths as even human. These are not byproducts of Islam, these are the core parts of Islam itself. Defending it is disgusting.



So what? We wouldn't give a fuck if we didn't need the damn oil. That Kim bastard does much worse yet we have left him alone for 60 got damn years because we don't need shit from him. Saudi Arabia commits more atrocities against humanity than any country in the Middle East yet we welcome those monarchist bastards whenever they choose to visit the country. We also respect their God damn religion when it serves our interests.

Quit with the bullshit morality play. It rings hollow for this student of American History.


For the record this is my original point. I stated that we wouldn't give a fuck if we didn't need Middle Eastern oil. You focused on Saudi Arabia. I didn't. I stated Middle Eastern oil. You are the latest of a number of people that continuously misrepresent what someone says. You stating that we don't need Saudi Arabian oil doesn't make it such either. That wasn't my point either.

I provided a source that contained information on the top 10 countries in terms oil reserves. You ignored it. Not surprising either. In the past 35 years the U.S. has engaged in military operations that involve 5 of them (All Middle Eastern by the way) yet you state that we don't need their oil. You look foolish.

This post is for Seacrest not America.


LTG, my dude, we absolutely DO NOT NEED their oil. Speculators aren't even sure how many billions of barrels of oil are in the west Texas/New Mexico Permean basin oil field. The Bakken is the same up here in ND. Plus we are always ahead of the curve with our fracking/extracting technologies.

We've been trading the #2 spot with Russia the last few years in regards to Oil production.

What we do need is the petro dollar agreement to keep going. If the #1 producer Saudi Arabia stops trading their oil in American dollars our dollar would be fucked.

So in essence, we do not need their oil, but we do need them to keep trading their oil in US dollars.

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Islam is totally cool and the USA only cares about oil.


There are 2 million Muslims living in this country currently. The vast majority live here peacefully and without incident. Religious zealotry in any form is dangerous and fake morality is worse. This country is outright killing people in that part of the world and MANY of the people that have commented on this are perfectly ok with it since they continuously duck the issue. Also if you believe that the U.S. is going to eradicate Islam with it's bombing campaign you are delusional. It's the fastest growing religion in the world and I don't believe for one second that we are there because we are appalled by religious practices. Right wing spin to justify B.S.


nah, bruh.
I get it. Islam is totally cool, and the UNited States is evil.
Noam Chomsky and 'long time guy' told me so it must be true.

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Islam is totally cool and the USA only cares about oil.


There are 2 million Muslims living in this country currently. The vast majority live here peacefully and without incident. Religious zealotry in any form is dangerous and fake morality is worse. This country is outright killing people in that part of the world and MANY of the people that have commented on this are perfectly ok with it since they continuously duck the issue. Also if you believe that the U.S. is going to eradicate Islam with it's bombing campaign you are delusional. It's the fastest growing religion in the world and I don't believe for one second that we are there because we are appalled by religious practices. Right wing spin to justify B.S.


nah, bruh.
I get it. Islam is totally cool, and the UNited States is evil.
Noam Chomsky and 'long time guy' told me so it must be true.


Nah bombing, murder, and meddling in someone else's business is all good. Your continued avoidance of that issue speaks volumes.

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Islam is totally cool

Stop trolling.

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Islam is totally cool

Stop trolling.


Trolling is a convenient copout for many. It's safe to say that MANY on here agree with U.S. actions in the Middle East. I will merely say that the ones who have commented do. All except 312.

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Stop trolling.


Is that a request or a command?

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The country that less than a year ago elected an admitted sexual assaulter, accused rapist, and noted misogynist is now the country leading the charge for women's liberation in the Middle East. Isn't that just peachy!

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Wrong. This country only cares about oil.
And Muslim apologetics.

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Wrong. This country only cares about oil.
And Muslim apologetics.


Indeed.

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I'm just glad the majority of this thread ostensibly devoted to an article about white supremacy and anti-Semitism on the right has focused on the real problem plaguing this country: the Muslims.


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I'm just glad the majority of this thread ostensibly devoted to an article about white supremacy and anti-Semitism on the right has focused on the real problem plaguing this country: the Muslims.


They are the new boogeymen and Islam is the new Communism.

As long as the focus remains there you can never go wrong on this board.

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Nobody cares who started it or what the USA has done foreign policy wise. Muslims rape children, Muslims subjugate women, Muslims destroy history they seem heretical, Muslims do not see people if other religions and faiths as even human. These are not byproducts of Islam, these are the core parts of Islam itself. Defending it is disgusting.



So what? We wouldn't give a fuck if we didn't need the damn oil. That Kim bastard does much worse yet we have left him alone for 60 got damn years because we don't need shit from him. Saudi Arabia commits more atrocities against humanity than any country in the Middle East yet we welcome those monarchist bastards whenever they choose to visit the country. We also respect their God damn religion when it serves our interests.

Quit with the bullshit morality play. It rings hollow for this student of American History.


For the record this is my original point. I stated that we wouldn't give a fuck if we didn't need Middle Eastern oil. You focused on Saudi Arabia. I didn't. I stated Middle Eastern oil. You are the latest of a number of people that continuously misrepresent what someone says. You stating that we don't need Saudi Arabian oil doesn't make it such either. That wasn't my point either.

I provided a source that contained information on the top 10 countries in terms oil reserves. You ignored it. Not surprising either. In the past 35 years the U.S. has engaged in military operations that involve 5 of them (All Middle Eastern by the way) yet you state that we don't need their oil. You look foolish.

This post is for Seacrest not America.


LTG, my dude, we absolutely DO NOT NEED their oil. Speculators aren't even sure how many billions of barrels of oil are in the west Texas/New Mexico Permean basin oil field. The Bakken is the same up here in ND. Plus we are always ahead of the curve with our fracking/extracting technologies.

We've been trading the #2 spot with Russia the last few years in regards to Oil production.

What we do need is the petro dollar agreement to keep going. If the #1 producer Saudi Arabia stops trading their oil in American dollars our dollar would be fucked.

So in essence, we do not need their oil, but we do need them to keep trading their oil in US dollars
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Thank you Jbills. Let's hope this retires the tired old bullshit that the Republicans invaded Iraq for their oil.

The Dems and the Republicans were in this together on some level because of the damage that could happen to the US economy.

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Nobody cares who started it or what the USA has done foreign policy wise. Muslims rape children, Muslims subjugate women, Muslims destroy history they seem heretical, Muslims do not see people if other religions and faiths as even human. These are not byproducts of Islam, these are the core parts of Islam itself. Defending it is disgusting.



So what? We wouldn't give a fuck if we didn't need the damn oil. That Kim bastard does much worse yet we have left him alone for 60 got damn years because we don't need shit from him. Saudi Arabia commits more atrocities against humanity than any country in the Middle East yet we welcome those monarchist bastards whenever they choose to visit the country. We also respect their God damn religion when it serves our interests.

Quit with the bullshit morality play. It rings hollow for this student of American History.


For the record this is my original point. I stated that we wouldn't give a fuck if we didn't need Middle Eastern oil. You focused on Saudi Arabia. I didn't. I stated Middle Eastern oil. You are the latest of a number of people that continuously misrepresent what someone says. You stating that we don't need Saudi Arabian oil doesn't make it such either. That wasn't my point either.

I provided a source that contained information on the top 10 countries in terms oil reserves. You ignored it. Not surprising either. In the past 35 years the U.S. has engaged in military operations that involve 5 of them (All Middle Eastern by the way) yet you state that we don't need their oil. You look foolish.

This post is for Seacrest not America.


LTG, my dude, we absolutely DO NOT NEED their oil. Speculators aren't even sure how many billions of barrels of oil are in the west Texas/New Mexico Permean basin oil field. The Bakken is the same up here in ND. Plus we are always ahead of the curve with our fracking/extracting technologies.

We've been trading the #2 spot with Russia the last few years in regards to Oil production.

What we do need is the petro dollar agreement to keep going. If the #1 producer Saudi Arabia stops trading their oil in American dollars our dollar would be fucked.

So in essence, we do not need their oil, but we do need them to keep trading their oil in US dollars
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Thank you Jbills. Let's hope this retires the tired old bullshit that the Republicans invaded Iraq for their oil.

The Dems and the Republicans were in this together on some level because of the damage that could happen to the US economy.


50% of the world's oil reserves are located in the Persian Gulf region. There is more that goes into "needing their oil" than driving a car or running a stove. There are all sorts of business interests that are tied up in that portion of the world. Those interests help drive foreign policy also.

In the past 35 years the United States has engaged in military operations with 5 of the top 10 nations in the world in terms of oil reserves. Again my original point related to the Middle East and not Saudi Arabia specifically.

We didn't go to war with Iraq for WMDs and we didn't go to war because of terrorism either. If it wasn't because they had the 2nd largest oil reserve in the world at the time then what was it?

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While we are at it can we dispense with the falsehood that we are in the Middle East because we seek to stop Muslim men from mistreating their women?

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LTG, what is your point? That the US hasnt stopped every evil thing ever, so dont worry about Radical Islam?


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LTG, what is your point? That the US hasnt stopped every evil thing ever, so dont worry about Radical Islam?


His point is he says the US engaged in certain military activities for reasons that are demonstrably false, or for reasons he invented to posit an argument no one was Having.

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LTG, what is your point? That the US hasnt stopped every evil thing ever, so dont worry about Radical Islam?


Radical Islam really isn't radical Islam with respect to the United States. Radical Islam is a reaction to U.S. actions in the Middle East. 312 pointed it out already. If the United States hadn't historically attempted to influence policy in that part of the world 9/11 doesn't happen. It doesn't mean that I "love Islam" or agree with Bin Laden either. Americans ignore U.S. actions and presume that everyone else will do the same. It's faulty logic and it's dangerous.

There is no moral equivalency for bombing the hell out of Muslim countries. Also if it were Al Queda that sponsored 9/11 then why in the hell was there a need to invade Iraq? A war on terror should have been a war on Bin Laden.

Also as I previously stated Saudi Arabia is among the most vicious of all human rights violators. It's also home to Muslim holy land. With both being the case why are we allied with them if we are diametrically opposed to each?

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LTG, what is your point? That the US hasnt stopped every evil thing ever, so dont worry about Radical Islam?


His point is he says the US engaged in certain military activities for reasons that are demonstrably false, or for reasons he invented to posit an argument no one was Having.


At some point it's safe to say that when none of my questions get answered it means that my essential points are valid. Easy to draw that conclusion and thus i will.

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Lastly for those on here who believe that insinuation into the affairs of foreign countries is ok even when accounting for human rights I pose this question.

How do you think this country and it's people would have reacted if a foreign nation would have militarily intervened during the period of slavery and even Jim Crow? Do you believe that foreign intervention would have been justified or do you believe the vast majority of America would have resisted?

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LTG, what is your point? That the US hasnt stopped every evil thing ever, so dont worry about Radical Islam?


Radical Islam really isn't radical Islam with respect to the United States. Radical Islam is a reaction to U.S. actions in the Middle East. 312 pointed it out already. If the United States hadn't historically attempted to influence policy in that part of the world 9/11 doesn't happen. It doesn't mean that I "love Islam" or agree with Bin Laden either. Americans ignore U.S. actions and presume that everyone else will do the same. It's faulty logic and it's dangerous.

There is no moral equivalency for bombing the hell out of Muslim countries. Also if it were Al Queda that sponsored 9/11 then why in the hell was there a need to invade Iraq? A war on terror should have been a war on Bin Laden.

Also as I previously stated Saudi Arabia is among the most vicious of all human rights violators. It's also home to Muslim holy land. With both being the case why are we allied with them if we are diametrically opposed to each?

We are hypocritical in some things. Guilty.

Radical Islam is a problem.


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LTG, what is your point? That the US hasnt stopped every evil thing ever, so dont worry about Radical Islam?


Radical Islam really isn't radical Islam with respect to the United States. Radical Islam is a reaction to U.S. actions in the Middle East. 312 pointed it out already. If the United States hadn't historically attempted to influence policy in that part of the world 9/11 doesn't happen. It doesn't mean that I "love Islam" or agree with Bin Laden either. Americans ignore U.S. actions and presume that everyone else will do the same. It's faulty logic and it's dangerous.

There is no moral equivalency for bombing the hell out of Muslim countries. Also if it were Al Queda that sponsored 9/11 then why in the hell was there a need to invade Iraq? A war on terror should have been a war on Bin Laden.

Also as I previously stated Saudi Arabia is among the most vicious of all human rights violators. It's also home to Muslim holy land. With both being the case why are we allied with them if we are diametrically opposed to each?

We are hypocritical in some things. Guilty.

Radical Islam is a problem.



Yes and yes.

But radical Islam is funded by wealthy interests in Saudi Arabia and the average citizen is unaware of this and the average politician is loathe to walk away from their economic interests.

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Seacrest wrote:
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LTG, what is your point? That the US hasnt stopped every evil thing ever, so dont worry about Radical Islam?


Radical Islam really isn't radical Islam with respect to the United States. Radical Islam is a reaction to U.S. actions in the Middle East. 312 pointed it out already. If the United States hadn't historically attempted to influence policy in that part of the world 9/11 doesn't happen. It doesn't mean that I "love Islam" or agree with Bin Laden either. Americans ignore U.S. actions and presume that everyone else will do the same. It's faulty logic and it's dangerous.

There is no moral equivalency for bombing the hell out of Muslim countries. Also if it were Al Queda that sponsored 9/11 then why in the hell was there a need to invade Iraq? A war on terror should have been a war on Bin Laden.

Also as I previously stated Saudi Arabia is among the most vicious of all human rights violators. It's also home to Muslim holy land. With both being the case why are we allied with them if we are diametrically opposed to each?

We are hypocritical in some things. Guilty.

Radical Islam is a problem.



Yes and yes.

But radical Islam is funded by wealthy interests in Saudi Arabia and the average citizen is unaware of this and the average politician is loathe to walk away from their economic interests.


American bombing and interventions is an even bigger problem. Also radical Islam is more of a problem for other Muslims than it could ever be for the U.S. Muslims in that part of the world war with each other much more than they war with "The West". There has always been division among Shia and Sunni and that division isn't consolidated even when you account for Western powers.

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Stop intervening in the Middle East! Why aren't we intervening in Saudi Arabia!

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LTG, what is your point? That the US hasnt stopped every evil thing ever, so dont worry about Radical Islam?


Radical Islam really isn't radical Islam with respect to the United States. Radical Islam is a reaction to U.S. actions in the Middle East. 312 pointed it out already. If the United States hadn't historically attempted to influence policy in that part of the world 9/11 doesn't happen. It doesn't mean that I "love Islam" or agree with Bin Laden either. Americans ignore U.S. actions and presume that everyone else will do the same. It's faulty logic and it's dangerous.

There is no moral equivalency for bombing the hell out of Muslim countries. Also if it were Al Queda that sponsored 9/11 then why in the hell was there a need to invade Iraq? A war on terror should have been a war on Bin Laden.

Also as I previously stated Saudi Arabia is among the most vicious of all human rights violators. It's also home to Muslim holy land. With both being the case why are we allied with them if we are diametrically opposed to each?

We are hypocritical in some things. Guilty.

Radical Islam is a problem.



Yes and yes.

But radical Islam is funded by wealthy interests in Saudi Arabia and the average citizen is unaware of this and the average politician is loathe to walk away from their economic interests.


Amazing how the same benefactors of "radical Islam" sponsor the republican party as well. But how so MANY are loathe to connect the dots

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Stop intervening in the Middle East! Why aren't we intervening in Saudi Arabia!


The inherent biases that exist for MANY never quite cease to amaze.

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LTG, what is your point? That the US hasnt stopped every evil thing ever, so dont worry about Radical Islam?


Radical Islam really isn't radical Islam with respect to the United States. Radical Islam is a reaction to U.S. actions in the Middle East. 312 pointed it out already. If the United States hadn't historically attempted to influence policy in that part of the world 9/11 doesn't happen. It doesn't mean that I "love Islam" or agree with Bin Laden either. Americans ignore U.S. actions and presume that everyone else will do the same. It's faulty logic and it's dangerous.

There is no moral equivalency for bombing the hell out of Muslim countries. Also if it were Al Queda that sponsored 9/11 then why in the hell was there a need to invade Iraq? A war on terror should have been a war on Bin Laden.

Also as I previously stated Saudi Arabia is among the most vicious of all human rights violators. It's also home to Muslim holy land. With both being the case why are we allied with them if we are diametrically opposed to each?

We are hypocritical in some things. Guilty.

Radical Islam is a problem.



Yes and yes.

But radical Islam is funded by wealthy interests in Saudi Arabia and the average citizen is unaware of this and the average politician is loathe to walk away from their economic interests.


Amazing how the same benefactors of "radical Islam" sponsor the republican party as well. But how so MANY are loathe to connect the dots



Yep and it's interesting how they always seem to conveniently excuse it.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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rogers park bryan wrote:
LTG, what is your point? That the US hasnt stopped every evil thing ever, so dont worry about Radical Islam?


Radical Islam really isn't radical Islam with respect to the United States. Radical Islam is a reaction to U.S. actions in the Middle East. 312 pointed it out already. If the United States hadn't historically attempted to influence policy in that part of the world 9/11 doesn't happen. It doesn't mean that I "love Islam" or agree with Bin Laden either. Americans ignore U.S. actions and presume that everyone else will do the same. It's faulty logic and it's dangerous.

There is no moral equivalency for bombing the hell out of Muslim countries. Also if it were Al Queda that sponsored 9/11 then why in the hell was there a need to invade Iraq? A war on terror should have been a war on Bin Laden.

Also as I previously stated Saudi Arabia is among the most vicious of all human rights violators. It's also home to Muslim holy land. With both being the case why are we allied with them if we are diametrically opposed to each?

We are hypocritical in some things. Guilty.

Radical Islam is a problem.



Yes and yes.

But radical Islam is funded by wealthy interests in Saudi Arabia and the average citizen is unaware of this and the average politician is loathe to walk away from their economic interests.


Amazing how the same benefactors of "radical Islam" sponsor the republican party as well. But how so MANY are loathe to connect the dots


They connect both parties.

I did that in the post of mine that you quoted. :wink:

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LTG, what is your point? That the US hasnt stopped every evil thing ever, so dont worry about Radical Islam?


Radical Islam really isn't radical Islam with respect to the United States. Radical Islam is a reaction to U.S. actions in the Middle East. 312 pointed it out already. If the United States hadn't historically attempted to influence policy in that part of the world 9/11 doesn't happen. It doesn't mean that I "love Islam" or agree with Bin Laden either. Americans ignore U.S. actions and presume that everyone else will do the same. It's faulty logic and it's dangerous.

There is no moral equivalency for bombing the hell out of Muslim countries. Also if it were Al Queda that sponsored 9/11 then why in the hell was there a need to invade Iraq? A war on terror should have been a war on Bin Laden.

Also as I previously stated Saudi Arabia is among the most vicious of all human rights violators. It's also home to Muslim holy land. With both being the case why are we allied with them if we are diametrically opposed to each?

We are hypocritical in some things. Guilty.

Radical Islam is a problem.



Yes and yes.

But radical Islam is funded by wealthy interests in Saudi Arabia and the average citizen is unaware of this and the average politician is loathe to walk away from their economic interests.


Amazing how the same benefactors of "radical Islam" sponsor the republican party as well. But how so MANY are loathe to connect the dots


They connect both parties.

I did that in the post of mine that you quoted. :wink:

Anyone who actually believes that there is a political solution to the world's problems will eventually end up more bitterly disappointed in the end, than they are currently, with the government in this country.



There isn't a religious solution either. For what it is worth I really don't think that U.S. involvement in the Middle East is mostly related to Islam. Clearly stated that. For the sake of argument let's say that it is. Is there any upside to starting a 21st Century version of a holy war? This notion of the theirs being the "evil" religion isn't furthering the cause of peace on earth any. The propaganda which accompanies this sort of language only serves to intensify things.

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Stop intervening in the Middle East! Why aren't we intervening in Saudi Arabia!


The inherent biases that exist for MANY never quite cease to amaze.
That isn't an answer.

Why do you keep on bringing up Saudi Arabia when you are clear that we should not intervene at all in the Middle East and we should pull all support for Israel and just let the armies there battle it out? Would you support us attacking Saudi Arabia right now?

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