I think you have to applaud the Cubs organization for realizing that last year was a failure and looking to correct it.

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I dont think anyone here is qualified to say who is the best coach.

I dont think the firing protects Maddon. In fact, the firing has increased the Maddon hate and it is now manifesting itself as Bosio love.

Yeah, firing somebody successful that was there before you and bringing in your own guy squarely puts the focus on Maddon. That does the opposite of protect him.

From the blame this season. You already have guys saying that Bosio lost it and not talking about how awful Maddon is in the playoffs.

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GO BEARS!!!

Maddon has made bad moves in the post season, no doubt.

But they got as far (mabye even one round further) as the talent could take them this year, imo


If you're not blaming Bosio for CJ Edwards then I dont think you can blame Maddon for the Bryzzo disappearing act.


Anyway, it'll all be fine. Cubs will be good again next year.

Opposing teams now have a great scouting report on how to attack Bryant and Rizzo and saved it for when it mattered. That is worrisome.

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Adjustments must be made.

Not really, people were already talking about how awful Maddon was in the playoffs when they won the World Series. Plenty of people, not just "on twitter," have been talking about Joe's playoff issues this year. Heck they're using the Bosio firing to further torch Joe.

can you say specifically what that scouting report was?

saved it for when it mattered what are you talking about.

good grief.

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Do you not understand that teams and players don't throw the entire playbook at opposing teams they may see in the postseason?

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Bosio did a really good job. He helped Arrieta get back to a delivery that worked better for him and simplified it, to make it easier to consistently throw strikes and he won a Cy Young award. He helped Kyle Hendricks to win the ERA title last season and become a top of the rotation pitcher. He helped guys like Feldman and Hammel to be effective enough to win with the Cubs and then be traded for prospects. But he wasn't a Joe Maddon hire and maybe he did not agree with the way Joe used his staff in the playoffs and made the mistake of disagreeing with Joe out loud? Anyway, he is gone. Maybe Hickey will be good and the pitchers will throw strikes more often. But the pitching was a big reason they won last year and the starting pitching was the reason they got to the NLCS 3 straight years. Bosio was not the problem.

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Did we ever get details on the Lester/Bosio argument last summer (when Lester, if I recall, got shelled for something like 10 runs in an inning and was "injured")?

I wonder if the startersdidnt have a beef with him?

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I thought that Lester contract was only 4 years instead of six. These last three years are going to suck. If I were the Cubs I wouldn't be making any concessions with him in mind. He has already displayed how he acts when he becomes entitled in a dugout.

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The Lester contract has been great. Stay out of Cubs business.

Regular Season: 43-25 (for JORR's sake), 3.33 ERA, 32 GS each season, 1.147 WHIP, 3.67 K/BB, 8.9 K/9

Postseason: 3-3 (for JORR's sake), 2.53 ERA, 9 GS total, 0.968 WHIP, 3.19 K/BB, 7.2 K/9

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Which is why I wrote "these last three years".

Not all contracts will suck from the moment the ink dries like Jason Heyward's.

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Unfounded assumption.

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follow the trend and refer to bill james article on prime years

founded, now refute

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Bill James = Gospel.


Gonna be saving that one for later.

Guess you didnt hear about the under reported speech he made in Game 7.

Justin Verlander. The guy people say the Cubs should have traded for, who is a year older and also has years left on his deal at big money.

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How did his year compare to Jon's without the h?

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He was a secondary source used only to supplement the statistical primary source. If I had just said "age, see Bill James", you might have ammunition. However when you see increasing offensive numbers against, lowest innings pitched in a decade and mid season claims of fatigue James was hardly necessary.

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Fairly identical.

I'm just glad pitchers aren't looked at in one year sample sizes, otherwise Jake Arrieta might have gotten a $500M contract.

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No, he will get something similar to Lester's instead

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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Sounds like Bosio is going to land in Detroit.

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You figure one of these guys will be willing to talk shit about Joe during the winter if a reporter is willing to stir up shit.

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Just give Bosio a dozen donuts and let him tell his tale.