Have a terrible night and die in MANY fires.

Yes

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

I'm not so sure of that. A lot of women seemed to believe that Trump is a serial sexual assailant/harrasser, yet they still voted for him. As you will recall, Trump carried the vote among white women.

I could be wrong, but I do not believe any women have accused him of rape.

Other than being in a strip club I can probably count on 1 hand the number of times some random woman grabbed my dick.

Guess it depends how you define grabbing someone by the pussy because you're a star

Please don’t take this as a defense of Trump, because I’m not defending him. I just don’t recall anyone accusing him of rape (unlike Clinton, where several women did). Rape has a specific definition that goes beyond “grabbing pussy:”

noun
1.
unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.

Grabbing em by the pussy could be penetration of the vagina by other body part couldn't it?


Tall Midget's point is valid.

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No, that is not rape by the accepted definition. Still worthy of a gunshot to the head but not as bad as what Bill did.

All of them ran in the same circles.

All of them ran in the same circles.

Have a terrible night and die in MANY fires.

I’m not trying to defend DJT. But his specific language was “grabbed”, not “fingered.” Only he and the woman know for sure. If she was wearing panties, unlikely any penetration occurred. That said, it is still assault and horrible.

However, Bill Clinton had several women accuse him of forcible rape. That is the distinction I’m trying to make.

The part of the book that caused the most controversy concerns Trump’s divorce from his first wife, Ivana. Hurt obtained a copy of her sworn divorce deposition, from 1990, in which she stated that, the previous year, her husband had raped her in a fit of rage. In Hurt’s account, Trump was furious that a “scalp reduction” operation he’d undergone to eliminate a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful. Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. In retaliation, Hurt wrote, Trump yanked out a handful of his wife’s hair, and then forced himself on her sexually. Afterward, according to the book, she spent the night locked in a bedroom, crying; in the morning, Trump asked her, “with menacing casualness, ‘Does it hurt?’ ” Trump has denied both the rape allegation and the suggestion that he had a scalp-reduction procedure. Hurt said that the incident, which is detailed in Ivana’s deposition, was confirmed by two of her friends.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

Come on, dude. Grabbing someone by the pussy is reprehensible in its own right. It is not, however, the same as rape. The redefining of all this stuff is ridiculous. Do you think a woman who was actually RAPED has the same mental scars as someone who was grabbed inappropriately?

I’m not trying to defend DJT. But his specific language was “grabbed”, not “fingered.” Only he and the woman know for sure. If she was wearing panties, unlikely any penetration occurred. That said, it is still assault and horrible.

However, Bill Clinton had several women accuse him of forcible rape. That is the distinction I’m trying to make.

I think there have been instances where women have been forcefully fingered and yes, I would consider that rape.

The point is that Sexual deviant rep does not make someone unelectable.

I think you may be getting a little trigger happy on the changing definitions thing. Some of the changes are valid.

There used to be a line of thinking that a husband could not rape his wife. That definition has rightfully changed.

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One example of a word that was apparently poorly defined in the past does not mean that we should just change the meaning of words on a whim.

Do you think there should be a legal distinction between the act of forcing someone to have sex with you against their will vs grabbing someone against their will? Or should "rape" just be an all-encompassing term?

First of all, I dont think Trump's "grab em by the pussy" was a reference to just a quick touch or pat. That would really make no sense and be more weird than anything. I believe he was referring to fingering them. Before that he said he just kisses them because he cant control himself. The next step is the forceful grab.


I think it all falls under the sexual assault umbrella. Obviously some are worse.


I really dont care though if people who "only" sexually assault someone (instead of outright rape) are lumped in together.

Real simple solution to that problem.

Remind me. Did Trump tell Billy Bush he DID grab them by the pussy or he COULD do that?

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We now live in a time where the defense of our President is "He isn't a rapist, he is merely a guy who engages and is proud of sexual assault!". Damn millenials.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

We now live in a time where the defense of our President is "He isn't a rapist, he is merely a guy who engages and is proud of sexual assault!". Damn millenials.

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Who in this thread said that?

Some libertarian with a rich dad. She's usually eye-poppingly stupid.

I'm reading the same thing Rick is. There are some things we just shouldn't excuse.

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Then you're openly choosing to read things that aren't there.

Please specifically tell me where someone d fended Trump. I

Who in this thread said that?