The problem is that the negative effect of sugar has been grossly underestimated. Even if you choose to try and avoid having a lot it is very hard to do so. Most packaged products have a large amount of it. It's fine in controlled numbers but that gets hard to control when you have to eat more than meat and vegetables.

You can't really ban it but maybe some rules on packaging describing just how much sugar is in that would be good. It worked pretty good for calories on fast food menus.

We really limit our sugar intake at home. If you are not lazy it isn't hard to do. It is very clearly marked on everything you buy. You may not like the taste of things without sugar but if you can read you cannot say you do not know how much sugar is in something.

I'm guessing you still have a lot of sugar unless you just eat meat and fresh vegetables. Even most bread is filled with it.

Going off of Dennis' post I have no idea how healthcare is really priced though. I know supply, demand and market forces but it really does not have to be so high in my opinion.

There is of course the legendary stories of the $500 tylenol pill administered at the hospital. But doing a google search should it really cost up to $200,000 for open heart surgery? What are the real costs and mark up on that?

Of course. That is why I said limit it not eliminate it.

You said it isn't hard to do.

I'm guessing you still have a lot of sugar unless you just eat meat and fresh vegetables. Even most bread is filled with it.

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Are you having a seizure? I said we limit it. It is not hard to limit it. It is very hard to eliminate it completely.

This might be the most condescending statement I've ever read.

The point is you are still likely having much more than you should. It's hard to get it down to a healthy level.

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The point is you are still likely having much more than you should. It's hard to get it down to a healthy level.

Why? Have you looked to see what you would have to do to get to a healthy level of sugar per day? There are foods that can be more than half your daily recommended amount that aren't even sweet foods.

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How do you have any idea how much he eats? It isn't rocket science. 99% of people know that white bread is filled with sugar. I think you think this is harder than it is.

How long before a mult named "Sweet Bread" starts a General Discussion Thread called "PittMike's Unknown Sugar Intake"?

As i said its almost impossible to eat a healthy amount of sugar unless you just eat meat and fresh vegetables.

Well I have to admit I didn't calculate the natural sugar in the fresh strawberries I just added to my oatmeal. Thank God I take my coffee black.

Yes, I'm very aware. It doesn't mean I always do a good job of following it, but I can tell you the times that I am eating less sugar and when I am eating too much. This isn't a revelation. People have been calculating what they eat for probably a century. I'm happy for you if you just discovered you could do this, but you're not alone.

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As i said its almost impossible to eat a healthy amount of sugar unless you just eat meat and fresh vegetables.

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The point is that most things sold in grocery stores in boxes and cans are filled with high levels of sugar so it's very hard to avoid without just eating meat and fresh vegetables.

We are going to look at how we treat sugar now like we look at tobacco use in the 50s.

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You know you pissed off Rick when you get the exclamation mark.

You know you pissed off Rick when you get the exclamation mark.

You really are having a hard time with limit versus avoid.

I always figured that is a sign of him smiling as he types. The gotcha moment is coming!