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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:03 pm 
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This bitch can fuck off. Didn't she see Stand and Deliver? Jaime Escalante explains to his students the great additions the Mayans (probably her ancestors) contributed to mathematics and that math is basically the one area where biases and culture are irrelevant.

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When I think of people who are good at math I think of white people, Greeks in particular.

Maybe it's called the Pythagorean theorem because it was discovered by a guy named Pythagoras?


Actually I think it was discovered by a Chinaman a thousand years before Pythagoras, but he was the first to prove it.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:23 pm 
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So......can she produce an example of "minority math" that is non-offending?






I would also like to point out that when one does a google search for "minority math," this image comes up....

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:38 pm 
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I would also like to point out that when one does a google search for "minority math," this image comes up....

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[quote="tommy"]
No, Denis, I get it. I get what you're saying. But we have a huge poor population--and not the good kind of poor population we once had....you know, the stuck-in-poverty-forever crowd. Also, size. But I know what you are saying, and there is merit there, but the context is so different.
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I would point out two important things.

1) The average kids in these high performing countries are at or above our best kids, meaning our so-called privileged children.
2) Poland is performing very high, and they have a much lower standard of living.

Now, you may say, well these places are homogenous. Except in the book, they profile a Finland school that is majority immigrant and non-native speakers.

This lady covered all the typical complaints that Americans have to brush aside our poor performance. The worst part is we spend more than any other country per student save Luxem. It is exactly the fact that we keep making all these excuses that is actually blocking real change. More money will not help. Private/charters will not help. And those are the two main solutions, from the left and the right respectively.

1) Much better trained teachers with high barriers to entry,
2) Higher standards,
3) Emphasis on education in schools rather than sports.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:15 pm 
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I guess geometry as white privilege explains why Jason Goff talks about the corner of 35th and Stony Island.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:27 pm 
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Greeks are really on the periphery of being European, if European at all. They certainly were not considered European at the time of Pythagoras.

If you were to play word association with me today and say the words "mathematical genius", a white male would not be the image that popped into my head.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:30 pm 
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Also, I have found that mastery of use of the language is improperly equated much more often with intelligence than mastery of mathematics.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:33 pm 
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I have to admit, I stopped thinking about this as soon as she brought up "microaggresions"

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tommy wrote:
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Franky T wrote:
When I think of people who are good at math I think of white people, Greeks in particular.

Maybe it's called the Pythagorean theorem because it was discovered by a guy named Pythagoras?


Isaac Newton was a pasty-faced Englishman who "invented" calculus to describe the movement of objects.

:lol:

I'd love to see the "Yes, but . . ." on that.


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Greeks are really on the periphery of being European, if European at all. They certainly were not considered European at the time of Pythagoras.

This sounds wrong.

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/24/white-privilege-bolstered-by-teaching-math-university-professor-says.html

A math education professor at the University of Illinois says the ability to solve geometry and algebra problems and teaching such subjects perpetuates so-called white privilege.

Rochelle Gutierrez laid out her views on the subject in an article for a newly published anthology for math educators titled, “Building Support for Scholarly Practices in Mathematics Methods.”

“School mathematics curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean Theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans," she says, according to Campus Reform.

She also says that addressing equity in mathematics education will come when teachers can understand and negotiate the politics outside the classroom.

“On many levels, mathematics itself operates as whiteness. Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as white,” she writes.

Further, she says mathematics operates with unearned privilege in society, “just like whiteness.”

Gutierrez did not respond to an email from Fox News Tuesday seeking comment.

University of Illinois interim Provost John Wilkin told Fox News that Gutierrez is an established and admired scholar who has been published in many peer-reviewed publications.

“As with all of our faculty at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Prof. Gutierrez has the rights of academic freedom necessary to pursue scholarship and research on important subjects and to reach conclusions even if some might disagree with those conclusions,” he said.

He added, “The issues around equity and access in education are real – with significant implications to our entire educational system. Exploring challenging pedagogical questions is exactly what faculty in a world-class college of education should be doing.”

In the book Gutierrez points out that mathematics operates as a proxy for intelligence, but asks, “are we really that smart just because we do mathematics?”

“As researchers, are we more deserving of large grants because we focus on mathematics education and not social studies or English?”

Gutierrez says evaluations of math skills can perpetuate discrimination against minorities, especially if they do worse than their white counterparts, Campus Reform reported.

“If one is not viewed as mathematical, there will always be a sense of inferiority that can be summoned” because the average person won't necessarily question the role of mathematics in society, she writes.

According to the website, Gutierrez adds that there are so many people who “have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms… [where people are] judged by whether they can reason abstractly.”

Her solution is a call for teachers to develop political "conocimeinto," or knowledge, to better prepare them in deciding on what learning opportunities work best for their students.

The book, published by Information Age Publishing, is a collaborative effort among more than 40 educators who teach mathematics methods courses for prospective pre-K‐12 teachers.


This is fucking stupid.

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Curious Hair wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Greeks are really on the periphery of being European, if European at all. They certainly were not considered European at the time of Pythagoras.

This sounds wrong.


but it isn't

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Are you saying that the ancient Greeks saw themselves as only Greek while Europe was everything else on the continent? Maybe, but calling Greeks "on the periphery of being European" sounds like some race-realist shit.

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You can't genetically tell a Greek from a Turk. That's why they hate each other so much.

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My friend's uncle thought he was 100% Turkish but took a test and found out he was Jewish and Greek. Now he hates himself and wants to die.

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Curious Hair wrote:
Are you saying that the ancient Greeks saw themselves as only Greek while Europe was everything else on the continent? Maybe, but calling Greeks "on the periphery of being European" sounds like some race-realist shit.


They are physically situated on the periphery of Europe. Greece is closer to Africa than to London or Paris or just about any other city from which the author thinks mathematics gain its whiteness.

Ancient Greeks looked south in relating their position in the world. They were a center of what is now known as the Middle East with their language being the lingua franca for the region.

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Yeah, but Greece has influenced the rest of Europe more than it's influenced Africa. At any rate, I don't think it's right to call modern Greeks' Europeanness (lol) into doubt. That has all sorts of nasty implications in the wake of their financial crisis.

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To be fair, in addition to 9-11 (the event, not -2), the Joos did Relativity as well as Quantum Mechanics, so .....

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