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I’m not even sure that I believe in a concept such as “morality.” Our laws are primarily designed to protect those of means from those without means and to at least give the impression that they are a net plus for the individual motives of all citizens equally.


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Oh, please. Neither of you believe that hogwash.

The wealthy could always pay for their own protection.


I do indeed believe it to a great extent, but that doesn’t mean I’m advocating for anarchy or acting as though all laws are bad.



A law can protect all of us equally, without all of us have equal means.

Like dolphin aid, you don't really believe that hogwash. The wealthy have alarms, poorer neighborhoods have burglar bars.


You’re both entitled to your opinion, but I can assure you I believe it.

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Time for that MRI, Seacrest.

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Time for that MRI, Seacrest.


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How did you know I have to schedule one for my ankle?

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good dolphin wrote:
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leashyourkids wrote:
I’m not even sure that I believe in a concept such as “morality.” Our laws are primarily designed to protect those of means from those without means and to at least give the impression that they are a net plus for the individual motives of all citizens equally.


:salut:


Oh, please. Neither of you believe that hogwash.

The wealthy could always pay for their own protection.
If anything, our system is built to supress the poor for the benefit of the middle class. You think the rich are worried about the poor getting a living wage and paying a higher percentage of taxes than anyone else?

Wait, what?

Our society is definitely set up (or has been bent into being) for the powerful to keep the power but I dont understand how your second sentence backs your first.
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
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leashyourkids wrote:
I’m not even sure that I believe in a concept such as “morality.” Our laws are primarily designed to protect those of means from those without means and to at least give the impression that they are a net plus for the individual motives of all citizens equally.


:salut:


Oh, please. Neither of you believe that hogwash.

The wealthy could always pay for their own protection.
If anything, our system is built to supress the poor for the benefit of the middle class. You think the rich are worried about the poor getting a living wage and paying a higher percentage of taxes than anyone else?

Wait, what?

Our society is definitely set up (or has been bent into being) for the powerful to keep the power but I dont understand how your second sentence backs your first.


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Seacrest wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
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leashyourkids wrote:
I’m not even sure that I believe in a concept such as “morality.” Our laws are primarily designed to protect those of means from those without means and to at least give the impression that they are a net plus for the individual motives of all citizens equally.


:salut:


Oh, please. Neither of you believe that hogwash.

The wealthy could always pay for their own protection.


I do indeed believe it to a great extent, but that doesn’t mean I’m advocating for anarchy or acting as though all laws are bad.



A law can protect all of us equally, without all of us have equal means.

Like dolphin aid, you don't really believe that hogwash. The wealthy have alarms, poorer neighborhoods have burglar bars.

Are you guys saying that laws do not protect the rich from the poor?
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
I’m not even sure that I believe in a concept such as “morality.” Our laws are primarily designed to protect those of means from those without means and to at least give the impression that they are a net plus for the individual motives of all citizens equally.


:salut:


Oh, please. Neither of you believe that hogwash.

The wealthy could always pay for their own protection.
If anything, our system is built to supress the poor for the benefit of the middle class. You think the rich are worried about the poor getting a living wage and paying a higher percentage of taxes than anyone else?

Wait, what?

Our society is definitely set up (or has been bent into being) for the powerful to keep the power but I dont understand how your second sentence backs your first.

The rich will be rich regardless of how the poor are treated. Why do you think so many middle class people fight against livable wages, welfare, and tax reform to give poor people more?

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
I’m not even sure that I believe in a concept such as “morality.” Our laws are primarily designed to protect those of means from those without means and to at least give the impression that they are a net plus for the individual motives of all citizens equally.


:salut:


Oh, please. Neither of you believe that hogwash.

The wealthy could always pay for their own protection.


I do indeed believe it to a great extent, but that doesn’t mean I’m advocating for anarchy or acting as though all laws are bad.



A law can protect all of us equally, without all of us have equal means.

Like dolphin aid, you don't really believe that hogwash. The wealthy have alarms, poorer neighborhoods have burglar bars.

Are you guys saying that laws do not protect the rich from the poor?


I think the highlighted portion of my post is pretty self explanatory.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
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leashyourkids wrote:
I’m not even sure that I believe in a concept such as “morality.” Our laws are primarily designed to protect those of means from those without means and to at least give the impression that they are a net plus for the individual motives of all citizens equally.


:salut:


Oh, please. Neither of you believe that hogwash.

The wealthy could always pay for their own protection.


I do indeed believe it to a great extent, but that doesn’t mean I’m advocating for anarchy or acting as though all laws are bad.



A law can protect all of us equally, without all of us have equal means.

Like dolphin aid, you don't really believe that hogwash. The wealthy have alarms, poorer neighborhoods have burglar bars.

Are you guys saying that laws do not protect the rich from the poor?


The original point is deeper than that. Is law itself designed to protect the powerful? No. The powerful have the ability to shield themselves from harm and in some natural state, it is the poor that live even more miserably.

The law is designed to protect the poor from each other (I'd accept the middle class as well).

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
I’m not even sure that I believe in a concept such as “morality.” Our laws are primarily designed to protect those of means from those without means and to at least give the impression that they are a net plus for the individual motives of all citizens equally.


:salut:


Oh, please. Neither of you believe that hogwash.

The wealthy could always pay for their own protection.
If anything, our system is built to supress the poor for the benefit of the middle class. You think the rich are worried about the poor getting a living wage and paying a higher percentage of taxes than anyone else?

Wait, what?

Our society is definitely set up (or has been bent into being) for the powerful to keep the power but I dont understand how your second sentence backs your first.

The rich will be rich regardless of how the poor are treated. Why do you think so many middle class people fight against livable wages, welfare, and tax reform to give poor people more?

The rich have power to change laws and policy to what benefits them, regardless.
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The law is designed to protect the poor from each other (I'd accept the middle class as well).

The rich dont need the law for protection but they still use it and make new ones to benefit themselves.
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The rich have power to change laws and policy to what benefits them, regardless.

So do the middle class. Money can only buy so many ads. The people still vote for candidates.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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The law is designed to protect the poor from each other (I'd accept the middle class as well).

The rich dont need the law for protection but they still use it and make new ones to benefit themselves.


I don't see Dr. Ken leaving Kenilworth to rob the poor.

But i would agree that the rich do use abortion laws to try and limit the amount of poor people in this country.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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The rich have power to change laws and policy to what benefits them, regardless.

So do the middle class. Money can only buy so many ads. The people still vote for candidates.

Ads? How bout lobbying or actual bribery?


The middle class has the same power as the rich? Cmon.
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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The rich have power to change laws and policy to what benefits them, regardless.

So do the middle class. Money can only buy so many ads. The people still vote for candidates.

Ads? How bout lobbying or actual bribery?


The middle class has the same power as the rich? Cmon.
Of course they do. Do you realize how many middle class people voted for Trump? Do you realize how many middle class people vote for these politicians that are supposedly bought for by the rich? They are doing that because they support the types of things those politicians want and do.

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Ok, so your position is that the wealthy have no more power than the middle class.


I think that is absolutely insane.
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Ok, so your position is that the wealthy have no more power than the middle class.


I think that is absolutely insane.


That's because it is.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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The law is designed to protect the poor from each other (I'd accept the middle class as well).

The rich dont need the law for protection but they still use it and make new ones to benefit themselves.


I don't see Dr. Ken leaving Kenilworth to rob the poor.

But i would agree that the rich do use abortion laws to try and limit the amount of poor people in this country.


Or, you know, immigration laws.

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Seacrest wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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The law is designed to protect the poor from each other (I'd accept the middle class as well).

The rich dont need the law for protection but they still use it and make new ones to benefit themselves.


I don't see Dr. Ken leaving Kenilworth to rob the poor.

But i would agree that the rich do use abortion laws to try and limit the amount of poor people in this country.


Or, you know, immigration laws.


The wealthy LOVE cheap labor. Those borders are non existent for a reason.

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I don't see Dr. Ken leaving Kenilworth to rob the poor.


He's already robbed them. That's how he got to Kenilworth.

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The Koch brothers have the same amount of power as the guy who does my pool repairs.

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I don't see Dr. Ken leaving Kenilworth to rob the poor.


He's already robbed them. That's how he got to Kenilworth.


Correct. The point about theft is a perfect example. Do you really think theft laws benefit the poor or the wealthy? I'm not saying they shouldn't exist, but let's not kid ourselves as to who benefits more from them.

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The Koch brothers have the same amount of power as the guy who does my pool repairs.


They just work harder than the pool boy.

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The Koch brothers have the same amount of power as the guy who does my pool repairs.

You realize that having a pool makes the garage thing weirder.

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The Koch brothers have the same amount of power as the guy who does my pool repairs.


They just work harder than the pool boy.

Leave Sancho out of this.

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The Koch brothers have the same amount of power as the guy who does my pool repairs.

You realize that having a pool makes the garage thing weirder.


:lol: How so?

The garage thing has been grossly exaggerated.

All I said was I was sitting in the garage while it rained, but now it's somehow become me sitting and watching the neighborhood children.

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Rich people are a convenient villein.

I'd say people in the 80k-200k bracket are the real problem. Driving up the costs of homes, paying unreasonable sums for them, was the cause of the downturn in 2008, and it will happen again. We have been snookered by the 30 year mortgage loan, "hey, it's only another hundred bucks a month for 30k in price, sure!"

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The Koch brothers have the same amount of power as the guy who does my pool repairs.

You realize that having a pool makes the garage thing weirder.


:lol: How so?

The garage thing has been grossly exaggerated.

All I said was I was sitting in the garage while it rained, but now it's somehow become me sitting and watching the neighborhood children.


Didn't you also post about sitting in there and some kids threw a ball or something near the grass and said "Sorry sir" or something?

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leashyourkids wrote:
The Koch brothers have the same amount of power as the guy who does my pool repairs.

You realize that having a pool makes the garage thing weirder.


:lol: How so?

The garage thing has been grossly exaggerated.

All I said was I was sitting in the garage while it rained, but now it's somehow become me sitting and watching the neighborhood children.


Didn't you also post about sitting in there and some kids threw a ball or something near the grass and said "Sorry sir" or something?


Yes. Also, I was touching myself.

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